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Rockwell 6s vs 6c

I've been DE shaving for perhaps a decade now so feel well placed to judge the Rockwell 6c against a stable of most of the 'best reviewed' razors available.

I score my razors based on 'feel' - so something that is feels like '1' out of 10 for aggressiveness (A) but leaves me with BBS 10 would obviously be my ultimate shaver.

The Muhle R41 - t
his feels really sharp on the skin and if loaded with a feather becomes a samurai sword on my face. I just can't seem to get a comfortable shave from there R41, seems to jump over my stubble so reason why although I can get great BBS it gets a minus 1.5 score.

Standout is by far my ATT S2 - I love my slants and this is IMO the perfect razor for my stubble with a +3. One I wish I hated as it's my first DE, the Futur and over the years thinking I'll find a better razor - well in reality - had I only bought just this one razor and not started a collection I wouldn't have been missing out - this never disappoints and crank this baby up to no.6 and your beard will be scared to come out again - but it's a truly great shave so gets a +1.5 (and very similar to the progress which is only just behind due IMO to the lighter weight)

Muhle R41 (A 10 : BBS 8.5 = -1.5)
ATT Above The Tie Atlas S2 slant (A 7 : BBS 10 = +3)
Fatip original grande black (A 7 : BBS 7.5 = +0.5)
Merkur Futur Adjustable (A 3 to 8 : BBS 9.5 = +1.5)
Merkur Progress Adjustable (A 3 to 8 : BBS 9 = +1)
Merkur 39c Slant Bar long handle (A 6 : BBS 6.5 = +0.5)
Merkur 37c Slant Bar (A 5 : BBS 6.5 = +1.5)
Merkur 34c Heavy Duty classic (A 4 : BBS 4 = 0)
Edwin Jagger DE89 11bl chrome (A 4 : BBS 5 = +1)
Icon X3 slant bulldog handle (A 3 : BBS 2 = -1)
Icon shavecraft 101 dual head bulldog handle
(A 2 : BBS1 = -1)

Sorry for the waffle but I thought it would be good to judge this razor against something you may have and will be able to relate to.

So I've just given the 6c a few runs through trying all the baseplates, as you can see from the above I like aggressive razors. Well, using baseplate (BP) 1 is comically mild - you could leave this safely in the hands of a baby (A0 : BBS0 = 0). Honestly - it's a struggle to do a lot with this for my stubble. BP 2 and at least it felt like I was making some progress.

BP 3 better - but BP4 was the first sign of progress for me and finished with a shave of (A 3.5 : BBS4 = +0.5) - so a good shave, nice feel and result - nothing to get too excited about and a similar shave to my Merkur 34c which I find is OK - but with a score of 0 I rarely use.

HOWEVER - thinking 5 might be moving into R41 territory I made sure my stubble was nicely prepared - so went at it with baseplate 5 - razor felt quite mild so I changed to the 6 baseplate and it wasn't at all harsh. In fact no more than a 7 for aggressiveness but the resultant shave was a good 9 - we're talking +2. I can't give it higher marks as this razor didn't cost enough - how dare it knock my ATT of no.1 spot!

The shave angle is slightly different to the norm but takes no time to dial in - and I must say this is now a top shaver for me. I would use baseplate 3/4 if I'm in a hurry, and 6 for the ultimate BBS! I used a Gillette Silver Blue - no need to try my 'go to' Feather blade.

So scores on the doors:

BASEPLATE 1 (A -1? : BBS 0 = -1)
BASEPLATE 2 (A 1 : BBS 1 = 0)
BASEPLATE 3 (A 3 : BBS 3 = 0)
BASEPLATE 4 (A 4 : BBS 4 = +0.5)
BASEPLATE 5
(A 6 : BBS 7.5 = +1.5)
BASEPLATE 6 (A 7 : BBS 9 = +2)

Thank you changr, for this this excellent post!

I'm a numbers guy, and appreciate what you've done here.

I've been daily driving a DE89, and am looking to bump-up the aggressiveness a bit. The 6C looks like exactly what I'd like, but I had some concerns since it seems by to be thought of as relatively mild by some. So I hestated, if the 6C would indeed be more aggressive (than the DE89).

Now, I feel a bit more confident in pulling the trigger on one.

If I can get a slightly more aggressive DE89 type shaving experience, I'l be very happy.
 
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I have a 6C and I agree that it feels very mild.

Even with the 6 plate,it feels very smooth and fairly mild to me.

And yet it gives a very nice BBS on 6.

The R41 MIGHT shave a tad bit closer--and that is a strong might.

But if I shave with the R41 multiple days in a row, my face gets a little tender.

And the R41 isn't nearly as smooth and comfortable during the shave as the 6C.

I have a Fatip, Futur, R41, Ikon Tech, Old Type, 37C slant, NEW LC and SC, 34C, DE89, and a few others.

The 6C has become my favorite for a daily driver. It is the best combination of comfortable and close that I have tried.

I'm sure always open to trying something better, but so far the 6C is my favorite everyday razor.
 
I have a 6C and I agree that it feels very mild.

Even with the 6 plate,it feels very smooth and fairly mild to me.

And yet it gives a very nice BBS on 6.

The R41 MIGHT shave a tad bit closer--and that is a strong might.

But if I shave with the R41 multiple days in a row, my face gets a little tender.

And the R41 isn't nearly as smooth and comfortable during the shave as the 6C.

I have a Fatip, Futur, R41, Ikon Tech, Old Type, 37C slant, NEW LC and SC, 34C, DE89, and a few others.

The 6C has become my favorite for a daily driver. It is the best combination of comfortable and close that I have tried.

I'm sure always open to trying something better, but so far the 6C is my favorite everyday razor.
Would you care to compare/contrast the 6C to your DE89? Especially in terms of aggressiveness?

I'm considering buying the 6C, and am hoping to get more aggression than my current DE89.
 
Would you care to compare/contrast the 6C to your DE89? Especially in terms of aggressiveness?

I'm considering buying the 6C, and am hoping to get more aggression than my current DE89.

From my experience, there's no comparison.

The DE89 is mild and not very efficient (for me).

The Rockwell is mild (up to plate 4) and very, very efficient. Plates 5 and 6 are a tad much for my skin in terms of aggression and you can imagine the efficiency is crazy good.

Plate 4 is my maximum and usually go on plate 3 for daily shaves with a sharp blade (polsilver).

I'd say the mildness of the DE89 is equal to plate 2 but the efficiency of the Rockwell is much higher as i can get a DFS on plate 2, which i could never get from the DE89.
 
Regarding similarity there are my Rockwells, 6C on the left and 6S right, plate number 4
Besides the C base plate having a more rounded leading edge than the S, the blade gap jumped out at me!

Are these the same # base plates? The C blade gap looks significantly larger than the S!
 
Without meaning any offence to Rockwell, the 6S really doesn't strike me as an heirloom item. Very functional, but ultimately not that pretty.

Just me?

Things don't need to be pretty to be an heirloom.

heir·loom
[ˈerlo͞om]
NOUN
  1. a valuable object that has belonged to a family for several generations.
 
You're right, of course. However, if I were picking one to hand down to the next generation, I wouldn't pick the Rockwell.
 
Besides the C base plate having a more rounded leading edge than the S, the blade gap jumped out at me!

Are these the same # base plates? The C blade gap looks significantly larger than the S!
Yes, base plates are the same, #4 on both razors. This gap difference is present from 1-6 base plate, always bigger gap on 6C. Plate #3 on 6C have equal gap to plate #4 on 6S for example (as someone also mention before).
 
Yes, base plates are the same, #4 on both razors. This gap difference is present from 1-6 base plate, always bigger gap on 6C. Plate #3 on 6C have equal gap to plate #4 on 6S for example (as someone also mention before).
Thanks for the reply. Wow!

I'm not sure what to make of this, because Rockwell seems to have only one general table of blade gaps in their website FAQ:

Here is a breakdown of our blade gaps for each shave size:

R1: 0.008" (0.20 mm)
R2: 0.014" (0.35 mm)
R3: 0.019" (0.48 mm)
R4: 0.024" (0.61 mm)
R5: 0.027" (0.69 mm)
R6: 0.031" (0.79 mm)

Reference: Rockwell Razors

The thing is: The base plate edge is different between the two razors, so does that mean the blade gap was changed to accommodate a difference in shave quality characteristics of the different base plate designs? Or is the 6C dialed in a step more aggressive?

I hope it's the latter, because my only fear with the Rockwell is that it may not leave me enough headroom to grown in terms of aggression.

But that didn't stop me from ordering it!
 
Thanks for the reply. Wow!

I'm not sure what to make of this, because Rockwell seems to have only one general table of blade gaps in their website FAQ:

Here is a breakdown of our blade gaps for each shave size:

R1: 0.008" (0.20 mm)
R2: 0.014" (0.35 mm)
R3: 0.019" (0.48 mm)
R4: 0.024" (0.61 mm)
R5: 0.027" (0.69 mm)
R6: 0.031" (0.79 mm)

Reference: Rockwell Razors

The thing is: The base plate edge is different between the two razors, so does that mean the blade gap was changed to accommodate a difference in shave quality characteristics of the different base plate designs? Or is the 6C dialed in a step more aggressive?

I hope it's the latter, because my only fear with the Rockwell is that it may not leave me enough headroom to grown in terms of aggression.

But that didn't stop me from ordering it!
The answer from Gareth from Rockwell on Reddit some 10 months ago (same matter)
"The blade gaps of the 6C are designed to mimic the 6S but may be off by extremely small amounts due to the different metals / manufacturing methods"
 
The answer from Gareth from Rockwell on Reddit some 10 months ago (same matter)
"The blade gaps of the 6C are designed to mimic the 6S but may be off by extremely small amounts due to the different metals / manufacturing methods"
Ah, thank you again.

Well I haven't even tried mine yet, but I think I prefer it one plate more aggressive.
 
Ah, thank you again.

Well I haven't even tried mine yet, but I think I prefer it one plate more aggressive.
I contacted Rockwell Razors, excellent service, and they will send me replacement top cap as soon as they have them in stock. Shaving with my 6S is different then with 6C, definitely rougher and less efficient.
 
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