I thought all the models got a redesign at some point with that top cap!
Or am I thinking of another razor?
Ruminations on the Edge
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Or am I thinking of another razor?
They all got the new beveled corners added and some slight changes in how the edges are treated, but I think that main "shaving" face remained flat on the + and ++. I've only seen the extra "shaping" on the +++. I think one would have to compare by looking at the side profile of each razor. Maybe someone who has one of each and is also a good photographer could take and share a side-by-side picture.
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Anybody planning to bite at the new ATT S1?
All three of the the Henson models all got the same revisions with version 2, we recorded the differences in the wiki:
www.badgerandblade.com
Those revisions are:
These all are nice quality of life improvements, but the shave quality remains the same between v1 and v2.
Henson Razor Models
Page to document what we know about the versions of the Henson Razor
www.badgerandblade.com
Those revisions are:
Increased grip - The overall diameter of the handle has been increased by 0.010”. Also, the textured portions of the handle have been made more pronounced. Both of these changes improve overall grip and handling of the razor.
Reshaped channels - The lather channels in the baseplate have been reshaped and the centre webs of the lather slots have removed, resulting in improved hair and lather evacuation.
Softened edges and added bevels - The edges of the baseplate and top cap have been softened in an effort to reduce any unwanted sharpness from the outer edges and corners of the razor head. Also, a large bevel has been added to the outer corners of the razor head. These changes improve comfort, control, and precision during shaving, especially when maneuvering around obstacles, such as next to the nose and mouth.
Removed end posts - The small posts at the ends of the blade gap have been removed from the baseplate. One resulting benefit of this is that the very ends of the razor blades edge are able to perform better. Also, since the shape of the lather channel is now completely through the razor head, rinsing of the razor is improved.
Added razor head grip - Indents have been added at the ends of the razor head to assist with gripping the head for assembly and disassembly for blade changes, cleaning, etc.
Chip groove - A small notch has been added to the top of the top cap threaded post to help keep the threads clean and free of debris.
These all are nice quality of life improvements, but the shave quality remains the same between v1 and v2.
I posted before that the S1 seemed like a weird model to reintroduce ATT!
I had all the ATT's (except the S1 slant!)
And I've still got a few of their handles!
I'll probably bite on a redesigned Windsor or a redesigned X1 or a completely new model!
I have it on the back burner for later in the year if the reviews are great... I loved the original S1, but it was a bit too mild for me...Shane said they've bumped up the efficiency around 10 to 15%... That might be enough for it to be perfect for me.
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I kind of feel the same way. I’ve never used a slant so I have no frame of reference. I understand the theory behind slants which is that by applying torque to the blade the torsion it creates helps to increase rigidity and limit blade flex. But this methodology was developed when production capabilities were more limited in the pre-CNC era, what @Benwustl calls Wave 1. And with the arrival of CNC machine tools and CAD/CAM software which can produce razors with much higher precision and tighter tolerances I can’t help but wonder if this is a technique whose day has passed?
I don't think their time has passed. Some people swear by them and they do work.
I don't know if they work better than a standard DE (in my experience ) but they do well.
I'm sure you'll have one at some point!
Which is exactly why Razorock came out with the Super Slant two years ago. Currently with a shipload of baseplates.
So still alive and kicking.
Or a clever extension of the Blackland gamma. They don’t have a slant. The regular ATT models might be in competion with their own line (I wouldn’t know because I have no experience with ATT razors, but sounds like strategic marketing).
I think they're purposely running it as something completely separate:
Blackland ultra modern & ATT old school!
Like it was when the original ATT was around!
At least handiewise they're not in competition with themselves. Shane has said that he'll never make a knurled handle!
But there it is under a different brand!
If I was @Blackland Razors (Calling Shane!), I'd consider putting the Tradere back into production under the ATT brand!
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I received this letter from Manuel Mikasi of Tedalus. I thought it would be fun to share.
Hello Lee,
Wow, thank you so much for writing this fantastic review! I’m truly happy to see that you’re enjoying the Velocity-ONE as much as you are.
It took me a long time to develop this specific shave setting—one that balances efficiency and comfort—and I’m glad you highlighted that in your detailed review.
Your point about the Jade is spot on as well.
I personally find immense joy in creating something truly unique. That creative process is where I feel most fulfilled, and for me, that’s what it’s all about. I could have opted for simpler shapes and surface finishes, which would have made manufacturing more cost-effective. But if I did that, I’d lose the excitement and passion that drive me.
Reviews like yours are incredibly meaningful to me because they show that my efforts are appreciated.
With Tedalus, my goal is to create unique products, even knowing that they cater to a small niche. That’s also why production quantities are low, which inevitably drives up production costs.
Nonetheless, I’m deeply passionate and fulfilled by this journey, and I plan to continue releasing more unique products in small production batches for those who truly value them.
Thank you again for your thoughtful review, and I wish you all the best in 2025!
Best regards,
Manuel Mikasi
Founder
Tedalus | Swiss Luxury Razors
Hello Lee,
Wow, thank you so much for writing this fantastic review! I’m truly happy to see that you’re enjoying the Velocity-ONE as much as you are.
It took me a long time to develop this specific shave setting—one that balances efficiency and comfort—and I’m glad you highlighted that in your detailed review.
Your point about the Jade is spot on as well.
I personally find immense joy in creating something truly unique. That creative process is where I feel most fulfilled, and for me, that’s what it’s all about. I could have opted for simpler shapes and surface finishes, which would have made manufacturing more cost-effective. But if I did that, I’d lose the excitement and passion that drive me.
Reviews like yours are incredibly meaningful to me because they show that my efforts are appreciated.
With Tedalus, my goal is to create unique products, even knowing that they cater to a small niche. That’s also why production quantities are low, which inevitably drives up production costs.
Nonetheless, I’m deeply passionate and fulfilled by this journey, and I plan to continue releasing more unique products in small production batches for those who truly value them.
Thank you again for your thoughtful review, and I wish you all the best in 2025!
Best regards,
Manuel Mikasi
Founder
Tedalus | Swiss Luxury Razors
A beautiful note, Lee. I wonder how many more B&B'ers will buy one because of your review? I'd guesstimate that a significant % of his target market is right here.
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I have a lot of respect for Manuel. I get it, the V1 is a bit over the top in terms of price. It’s just that I can really sense his passion for both design and wet shaving in his product. I believe him when he says that it’s the creative process which is most fulfilling to him. I guess I’m a fanboy.
Lee, more broadly, I wonder if a survey would be useful. We put together a list of razors where we know the Clamp Type, Clamp distance, Exposure, Gap, list price and Build Quality. We ask people to rate them for Comfort, Efficiency, Consistency, and Ease-of-use. The measures would be descriptive, but those descriptions would have numeric correlations. If we get enough data, we could do some statistical analysis.
I wonder if that might be of value to this community. Thoughts?
Thanks for the shout out, Lee!
I defer to the expertise of folks like @Old Hippie on slants (this post from him was my Rosetta Stone on slants for awhile: Which Slant to buy? Rex Konsul, Razorock SuperSlant, Used Wunderbar or Other? - https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/which-slant-to-buy-rex-konsul-razorock-superslant-used-wunderbar-or-other.632736/post-12016691). I have a couple of slants, the Rex Konsul and the Super Slant in L1++ and L2. They both work as advertised (at least for me).
I believe there's a few different kinds of slants, but for the ones that torque the blade I could see how that torque improves blade rigidity. I also think there's something to the "guillotine" argument for slants; whenever I get some tugging in a spot I find that this diagonal stroke (the one on the far left) using any standard DE actually does help.
At the same time, I don't use my slants much. I found using a slant a little disorienting in practice, and they're not great if you want to line up something straight (e.g., sideburns) I'm still probably going to get the S1, though...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To your point, it sounds like the Super Slant was developed to improve on the Wunderbar. From reviews and the Razorock website, it sounds like that high torque can create micro-waves in the blade edge that unexpectedly bite. Sounds like that was a known thing with the Wunderbar. The Super Slant is supposed to have an improved design/machining process that avoids that edge distortion.
My $0.02 (and to @Teutonblade's point), CNC design/execution has probably caught up to the point that you can get sufficient blade rigidity without torquing the blade (and the potential for edge distortion).
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Yes! I've been talking my LOTH's ear off so much about this that she actually suggested this earlier this week.....crowd source the data. The question is how best to implement it? I was thinking of starting a thread asking for the community for help where the four attributes are defined and members can just list it off. I think your idea of providing a pre-determined list of razors is fabulous! We won't have an Efficiency Rating (BBS, BBS-, etc) but we will have the Composite Scores which we can correlate to the Clamp Widths.
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Thank you for your input, Ben. I've heard that the guillotine motion can meaningfully benefit performance. I think your point about micro-waves and edge distortion is extremely interesting.
