I never could understand the concept of an AR pistol. Pistol to me means handgun and those are not handguns. I prefer one of the little shorty carbines( legal rifle/carbine length barrel) with a collapsible buttstock, if I need a short handy carbine. For a pistol I prefer a Colt 1911, Browning Hi Power or a good S&W 38 or .357 revolver.
My taste runs to longer guns though, and my favorite AR builds have 24 inch barrels, one of my vintage Swedish Mauser sporters and a couple of single shots sport 26" barrels.
To each his own though, have fun.
I never could understand the concept of an AR pistol. Pistol to me means handgun and those are not handguns. I prefer one of the little shorty carbines( legal rifle/carbine length barrel) with a collapsible buttstock, if I need a short handy carbine. For a pistol I prefer a Colt 1911, Browning Hi Power or a good S&W 38 or .357 revolver.
My taste runs to longer guns though, and my favorite AR builds have 24 inch barrels, one of my vintage Swedish Mauser sporters and a couple of single shots sport 26" barrels.
To each his own though, have fun.
All on the thread so far are Short Barreled Rifles as far as I can tell - they all have stocks. Pistol ARs would not have a stock and are not NFA. I agree on true pistol ARs - seem pointless to me unless it's just as an intermediate step waiting for your tax stamp. I think dread's just speaking of "pistol length" barrels in the general sense.
I am in the research phase to put together an AR based SBR, but will be doing it in .45 acp, suppressed. . To me that's the perfect home defense carbine. Packs a serious wallop, short for easy maneuvering, rifle platform shootabilty, but won't blow your ear drums when you pull the trigger.
This actually sounds very interesting, considering the ideal ammo for suppressed fire is subsonic ammo and most .45 ACP is already subsonic.
I suspect the AR pistols are blasty indeed.
Those are mostly SBR-cheater "wrist strap" non-stocks.
Agree [MENTION=43722]jamesspo[/MENTION] Have you seen a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45 ACP? a handy thing.
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That's what I thought . Ones I have seen in the past just had the receiver extension tube to house the recoil spring and buffer, no buttstock. I did not mention that on purpose at the time of my first post.Per the definition an AR pistol has no buttstock, all the ones shown are SBR's.
Yep.Per the definition an AR pistol has no buttstock, all the ones shown are SBR's.
I never could understand the concept of an AR pistol. Pistol to me means handgun and those are not handguns. I prefer one of the little shorty carbines( legal rifle/carbine length barrel) with a collapsible buttstock, if I need a short handy carbine. For a pistol I prefer a Colt 1911, Browning Hi Power or a good S&W 38 or .357 revolver.
My taste runs to longer guns though, and my favorite AR builds have 24 inch barrels, one of my vintage Swedish Mauser sporters and a couple of single shots sport 26" barrels.
To each his own though, have fun.
Per the definition an AR pistol has no buttstock, all the ones shown are SBR's.
The pic that the OP posted isn't an SBR. That's not a stock, it's a KAK Shockwave Blade stabilizer. It's similar to the Sig brace, but doesn't wrap around your arm.
Fair enough, put it to your shoulder in front of an ATF agent though and tell me how that works out for you....
I'm not saying I like it or would personally use it, just simply pointing out that technically it's a pistol. Since I have a legal SBR, I have no concern for the ATF agent.
Here's to taking Suppressors and SBRs/SBSs of the registry!
The point of AR pistols is incredibly simple. You can make a carbine SBR without an NFA stamp, that's the entire point. They're not supposed to replace handguns.
ETA they're kind of stupid now anyways, since you can no longer legally shoulder them with a sig brace on. Idiots couldn't leave well enough alone and had to send in a bunch of clarification requests to the ATF.