I'm convinced one of these is my grail razor but I don't know which. I had the RR 68P and got tired of all the buffing needed and sold it. I have a DS Cosmetics D8 that I love, but it has just a touch too much blade feel. I have read great reviews on they Yaqi 70SP. Not so much on the RR 76P. What do you think? Which will make me rich and happy and all my dreams come true?
Yaqi Ghost 70SP vs RR 76P
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For me, even the RR 84P is a mild razor.
Might I suggest a razor with which you don't have to settle for just one gap? Something you dial in your preference?
Adjustables, man! Adjustables.
Might I suggest a razor with which you don't have to settle for just one gap? Something you dial in your preference?
Adjustables, man! Adjustables.
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I think you need something else. The .84P and the S9 also require some buffing to get a perfect shave, so I don't think milder gap versions will ever do.
Now you could get an adjustable, as suggested, but maybe the Yaqi Trifecta head will do it for you. It comes with 3 shims for different gaps, I very much like it with its 1.10 gap shim.
Now you could get an adjustable, as suggested, but maybe the Yaqi Trifecta head will do it for you. It comes with 3 shims for different gaps, I very much like it with its 1.10 gap shim.
The ghost 90 might require slightly less buffing. It's still very gentle.
I also found the Ghost 90 to be very mild, pretty close to the GC68p. I'm not an aggressive razor guy either. You might want to try other plates with your Game Changer first, if you like your 68 and want a bit more efficiency.
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The Yaqi Ghost 70 SP is extremely mild, similar to the GameChanger 68P so I doubt that would help you in any way.
I think the GameChanger 76P is enough of a jump in efficiency from the 68P to get a close shave fairly easily without requiring tons of buffing. That being said, It all depends on your technique, your beard and what kind of shave you go for.
I think the GameChanger 76P might be what you are looking for.
If you want a mild razor with more efficiency than the GameChanger 68P, you could look at the Razorock Lupo aluminum or Lupo 58, the Karve Overlander, the Karve Bison, the Aylsworth Apex 70mm, or the Timeless ALSB45.
That being said, if you are still figuring out what level of efficiency you need, as others suggested, a razor with multiple baseplates or an adjustable might be a good idea, this way you will be sure to find one that works.
The Rockwell 6s is an excellent razor that will last several lifetimes and gives amazing shaves on many different plates (my favorite is R5)
Otherwise for an affordable adjustable that also shaves really nice you could try the Merkur Progress.
I think the GameChanger 76P is enough of a jump in efficiency from the 68P to get a close shave fairly easily without requiring tons of buffing. That being said, It all depends on your technique, your beard and what kind of shave you go for.
I think the GameChanger 76P might be what you are looking for.
If you want a mild razor with more efficiency than the GameChanger 68P, you could look at the Razorock Lupo aluminum or Lupo 58, the Karve Overlander, the Karve Bison, the Aylsworth Apex 70mm, or the Timeless ALSB45.
That being said, if you are still figuring out what level of efficiency you need, as others suggested, a razor with multiple baseplates or an adjustable might be a good idea, this way you will be sure to find one that works.
The Rockwell 6s is an excellent razor that will last several lifetimes and gives amazing shaves on many different plates (my favorite is R5)
Otherwise for an affordable adjustable that also shaves really nice you could try the Merkur Progress.
I was in a similar boat to you before. I bought two razors from Yintal that are stamped as Livben. My Liveben’s razors look remarkably similar to the Dscosmetic D8 and T7. That my two Livben razors looks like the Dscosmetic, leads me to believe that Livben buys surplus stock from other manufacturers, and then stamps their name on the razor. But who knows? Maybe one day we will find out who Livben is. The D8 look-alike gave me a remarkably close shave, and felt comfortable while shaving, yet ended up irritating my skin too much.
Cutting the story short, I realized these razors force a too steep of an angle, possibly because of the thick cap. I tried to solve the forced steep cutting angle issue by sanding down the cap. Later, I realized that these two Chinese razors have another big issue, which is blade rigidity. A vintage thick blade seems to solve the blade rigidity problem, but I have not tested the D8 shave with the vintage blade yet.
Lately, I’ve been analyzing my razors really closely to understand why one gives me a comfortable shave while another may be more aggressive and less efficient. I noticed that the razors, which were more comfortable, work well with shallow angle shaving, and have great blade rigidity. In these great razors, if I tried to move the blade at any portion along the bevel up or down, the blade would stay rigid. In these two Chinese razors, I can easily move the bevel down. This lack of blade rigidity and the forced steep angle probably contribute to the skin irritation I get from these razors.
Even though many people say these Chinese razors are a copy of the game changer, I think razor rock understands razor production better. Yet Yaqi may have gotten lucky with a few of their razors and produced some excellent copies. If I was looking to buy a Yaqi razor now, my first choice would probably be the “Tile” as the tile is the most aggressive version of the ghost, and the tile is much cheaper than the ghost. If your patient you can find the tile for $20. On average, the tile ranges from $25-$30. Based on my research, the tile can give and remarkably close irritation free shave. If you end up finding the tile to be too aggressive, you can then decide if you want to buy the less aggressive, more expensive ghost. Sometime down the road you will probably get great shaves from the tile when your technique improves.
For me, the razor that ended my Henson like razor search was the Goodfellas’ Smile Bayonetta. The Bayonetta gives a remarkably close irritation free shave. Yet if I see the tile for $20 again, I may end up buying it, as I’m being stubborn and won’t pay $25for the tile. I also get remarkably efficient irritation free shaves from the vintage Gillette’s.
Cutting the story short, I realized these razors force a too steep of an angle, possibly because of the thick cap. I tried to solve the forced steep cutting angle issue by sanding down the cap. Later, I realized that these two Chinese razors have another big issue, which is blade rigidity. A vintage thick blade seems to solve the blade rigidity problem, but I have not tested the D8 shave with the vintage blade yet.
Lately, I’ve been analyzing my razors really closely to understand why one gives me a comfortable shave while another may be more aggressive and less efficient. I noticed that the razors, which were more comfortable, work well with shallow angle shaving, and have great blade rigidity. In these great razors, if I tried to move the blade at any portion along the bevel up or down, the blade would stay rigid. In these two Chinese razors, I can easily move the bevel down. This lack of blade rigidity and the forced steep angle probably contribute to the skin irritation I get from these razors.
Even though many people say these Chinese razors are a copy of the game changer, I think razor rock understands razor production better. Yet Yaqi may have gotten lucky with a few of their razors and produced some excellent copies. If I was looking to buy a Yaqi razor now, my first choice would probably be the “Tile” as the tile is the most aggressive version of the ghost, and the tile is much cheaper than the ghost. If your patient you can find the tile for $20. On average, the tile ranges from $25-$30. Based on my research, the tile can give and remarkably close irritation free shave. If you end up finding the tile to be too aggressive, you can then decide if you want to buy the less aggressive, more expensive ghost. Sometime down the road you will probably get great shaves from the tile when your technique improves.
For me, the razor that ended my Henson like razor search was the Goodfellas’ Smile Bayonetta. The Bayonetta gives a remarkably close irritation free shave. Yet if I see the tile for $20 again, I may end up buying it, as I’m being stubborn and won’t pay $25for the tile. I also get remarkably efficient irritation free shaves from the vintage Gillette’s.
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Thanks. I have the Pearl Flexi. That's a great razor but I just don't reach for it. Interesting to hear that the 84 p you consider to be mild.
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Thanks. Hmm. I really get a different perspective from these comments. Like the S9 still needing some buffing. I'm not really after the perfect shave, though. Still it's good to gather the information.
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Thanks. I read some good things about the ghost 90. The 90 part warned me off a bit. But if it's very gentle, it may be for me.
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Thanks. I'm definitely going to check out the ghost 90. I sold the game changer so don't have the plate option. But I may pick up another one.
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Thanks for the advice about the Yaqi 70 being too mild. I was pretty locked in on that as being the razor for me. Had the lupo aluminum. Great razor but a little light and a little too much blade feel I think. Have the Karve Overlander brass, but I'm still searching somehow. Have been very tempted by the Rockwell 6s. And I'm kind of staying away from adjustables.
I did not find the Ghost 90 better than the GC 68p for efficiency. I'd recommend a Henson medium if you want more efficient, didn't you have a Henson?
@dawid did a fascinating analysis of all the parameters that come into play when designing a razor's geometry. My recollection is that he came to the conclusion that gap per se isn't always the most relevant/impactful one. I'd agree with this.
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Thanks. I have the Tile and I consider it plenty aggressive. Kind of how can it not be with a 1.5 blade gap. And I'm a little leery of really cheap Chinese razors. I read a review about a guy loving a Hayward DE razor that he bought for $7 and so of course I bought one. It had delayed alignment issues and I got the worst cut I've ever gotten shaving. If a razor is fuzzy when it comes to stuff like blade alignment that's not for me because I'm usually so groggy when I'm shaving I'm not paying attention to that.
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I have the Henson mild. But a part of me is after a mild razor. I know that sounds inconsistent with my OP, but would you say the ghost 90 is even milder than the 68p. The 68p is pretty much a no-brainer shave for me.
I have the Yaqi Ghost razors in 0.9 stainless and 0.7 aluminium. The stainless is really mild and smooth. It's a really nice looking razor with really shiny polishing.
Infact I find the aluminium one slightly more aggressive and blade feel, maybe it's the lightness of the razor that makes me use more pressure?
Both are really nice razors and great bang for your buck IMO!
Infact I find the aluminium one slightly more aggressive and blade feel, maybe it's the lightness of the razor that makes me use more pressure?
Both are really nice razors and great bang for your buck IMO!
I find the Henson mild, the GC 68p, and the Ghost 90 to be about the same mildness. The Ghost 90 and GC 68p have almost neutral blade exposure, just the tiniest bit positive.
If you wanted mild, but a bit more efficient, while being just as safe and smooth as your Henson mild, get the Henson medium.
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Good to know. Thank you.
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Thanks. You put the Henson medium in the mix for me.
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