A family friend was/is obsessed with the singer. So bad she only had a The Smiths or the singer's other band/music on either in her car or on her ears. I did like their songs/music but her obsession got me in and out of them in a year.
You are correct Morrisey is his name. I had one of his solo albums I liked a lot, but, I like the smiths guitar player Johnny Marr more than him.A family friend was/is obsessed with the singer. So bad she only had a The Smiths or the singer's other band/music on either in her car or on her ears. I did like their songs/music but her obsession got me in and out of them in a year.
Morrisey was his name, right?
I was something of a late comer to The Smiths and Morrisey, and they seem to attract a certain amount of obsessiveness in fans. But I would say I really like the group, Morrisey, and Johnny Mars. The Smiths bass player, Andrew Rourke, who sadly passed away in May 2023 from pancreatic cancer, was pretty much a generational talent, too. Melodic and funky both, and a multi-instrumentalist, too. Fantastic talent.You are correct Morrisey is his name. I had one of his solo albums I liked a lot, but, I like the smiths guitar player Johnny Marr more than him.
Joy Division and in turn New Order are probably my favorite band(s) of that period. Unknown Pleasures and Closer are two of my favorite albums of all time. I like the Smiths and in turn Morrisey on Maladjusted particularly, but, in my mind they they pale in comparison to Joy Division.I was something of a late comer to The Smiths and Morrisey, and they seem to attract a certain amount of obsessiveness in fans. But I would say I really like the group, Morrisey, and Johnny Mars. The Smiths bass player, Andrew Rourke, who sadly passed away in May 2023 from pancreatic cancer, was pretty much a generational talent, too. Melodic and funky both, and a multi-instrumentalist, too. Fantastic talent.
The Smiths came out of the early 1980s Manchester music scene. A hugely important independent music act, somewhat like Joy Division, which came earlier. To me they deserve massive credit and pretty much all the adulation they seem to attract!
I still love the early '60s girl groups: Ronettes, Shirelles, Supremes, etc. Way classier and better talented than today's trash.From 1964, the only studio album by The Ronettes.
I hear you. I think Joy Division and the Smiths are probably really best considered as from slightly different periods. I am not sure how to consider New Order, which I like fine, but not as much as I like Joy Division and the Smiths. The internet tells me Joy Division was founded in 1976, after a famous Sex Pistols concert. (Famous as in it was poorly attended, but everyone who attended went out and formed a band.Joy Division and in turn New Order are probably my favorite band(s) of that period. Unknown Pleasures and Closer are two of my favorite albums of all time. I like the Smiths and in turn Morrisey on Maladjusted particularly, but, in my mind they they pale in comparison to Joy Division.
Johnny Marr is an excellent guitar player I don't dispute that at all. Andy Rourke also was a great bassist. Hooky may have learned the bass on the fly, and, has never learned to read music. I think a lot of credit for Joy Division lays with Martin Hannett's production. Ian Curtis took his own life on my second birthday. I actually became acquainted with New Order first. I find the turmoil that has separated Hooky from the other members sad. I would go to see either New Order ,or, Peter Hook And The Light any chance I get. I don't think I would clear any plans to see Morrisey. Any project that Johnny Marr is a part of on the other hand I would.I hear you. I think Joy Division and the Smiths are probably really best considered as from slightly different periods. I am not sure how to consider New Order, which I like fine, but not as much as I like Joy Division and the Smiths. The internet tells me Joy Division was founded in 1976, after a famous Sex Pistols concert. (Famous as in it was poorly attended, but everyone who attended went out and formed a band.Morrisey was there, too.) Ian Curtis died in May 1980. New Order really started up in October 1980. The Smiths released their first record in 1983, which as not successful, although apparently they first formed much earlier.
To me Joy Division was rougher than the Smiths. Darker. Closer to punk. As I recall the members of Joy Division did not know how to play their instruments when they started. I think they were sort of creating their genre on the fly. It is hard for me to imagine that Johnny Mars and Andy Rourke ever could not play their instruments. Although Peter Hook sure evolved into a great bass player. To me the Smiths are more melodic and maybe more musical that Joy Division. And Morrisey is a charismatic vocalist and frontman. But I probably like Joy Division better than the Smiths, too. So original. So compelling. Ian Curtis was not your typical frontman, but I imagine it was hard to take your eyes off of him.
So, I guess, really quite different genres of music. I am not sure I see the Smiths as paling in comparison to very many groups. Too much musical talent in that group. Joy Division was probably more influential.
I would give the edge to Joy Division. A more important group to me personally.
A lot of great music has come out of Manchester over the decades.