Man in need of advice for longer hair.

[bearbear]

It isn't true and that is what was first thought over a hundred years ago. It said there are a number of things that determine it and genetics are one of them, but not limited to the mothers side.

No doubt nutrition, activity level, hormone balance have an impact. Stress, sleep, environmental toxins, theres a plethora of factors current, developmental and genetic.

Barberofdeville, thanks. I'll have to find myself a new stylist. The barber shop i used to go to specializes in short cuts and detail work (fades cesars etc).

 

[richmondesi]

It isn't true and that is what was first thought over a hundred years ago. It said there are a number of things that determine it and genetics are one of them, but not limited to the mothers side.

It is true It is an x-linked trait (learned in genetics class just a couple of years ago )

If it is an X linked trait, it must, by definition, come from the mother's side. While environmental factors CAN contribute to balding, genetic male pattern baldness absolutely comes from the mother as males have XY chromosomes and females have XX chromosomes. Males by definition pass Y chromosomes to male offspring while females always pass X. Since it is an X linked trait, genetic male pattern baldness (which is what we have been talking about) absolutely comes from the mothers side. That is true

 

[Captain Morgan]

Try this haircut!

http://www.funfolly.com/g/pex/w8704ped.gif

 

[Mama Bear]

So, i've been growing it out for about a year now, and its at that akward in between stage where its not quite long enough to throw into a ponytail, but a lil to long and thick, so i'm stuck with either slicking it mobster style with some brylcream or wearing a cap.

To put it into cliffs:
-Is a ponytail ok on a self respecting"manly man"(about 6'2, 220lbs, 50 inch chest, 34 inch waist)?
-what can i do for styling in the mean time, (about 7 inches or more all over)?
-continue growing it out or cut it short?

Kinda at a loss here folks, If there are any female members as well that could comment, it would be greatly appreciated as i don't have a SWMBO or to many female friends that look past my body when i ask them about it. 1 has said my long hair is "hot" (which was followed by an akward moment after she straddled me and told me she'd marry into my family one day, even though she had a boyfriend. Another told me she loves the goatee, neglected to comment on my hair, and i later found out she prefers shorter hair.

Sorry for the length...i just always thought long hairs and ponytails added a soft touch to a rugged exterior.

I absolutely ADORE long hair on a man and to me it adds greatly to his sex appeal, especially on a manly man type. What you are going thru is the uglies.. the hardest part of growing out your hair too long for most things and still to short for the rest. Be patient and let it go and for goodness sakes please do not resort to a baseball cap, it is not good for your hair.

Mama Bear who gets in line behind the million other women...

 

[bearbear]

Try this haircut!

http://www.funfolly.com/g/pex/w8704ped.gif

you know, i was contempleting this look with that exact face and katana.

I absolutely ADORE long hair on a man and to me it adds greatly to his sex appeal, especially on a manly man type. What you are going thru is the uglies.. the hardest part of growing out your hair too long for most things and still to short for the rest. Be patient and let it go and for goodness sakes please do not resort to a baseball cap, it is not good for your hair.

Mama Bear who gets in line behind the million other women...

Thank you for your insightful post Mama Bear, now if only i could find this line of women

 

[SiBurning]

Some kind of goo can help to keep it together so you can keep something resembling a style in place. Are you cutting & styling differently as it grows, or just letting it all grow out?

If you haven't done this before, there's a second awkward stage once you can get a pony tail. You have a choice of waiting to tie it up or using something too tight that breaks the hair. If you want it to grow really long, you need a tie (and a routine) that doesn't break hairs, but that means a very loose tie. A compromise would be to tie it up sooner, and then loosen it about a year later to let the cut hairs catch up, and meet the ends that you're trimming.

In the mean time, maybe you can do like Qui-Gon Jinn, or some other short tail style, but use something gentle on your hair, keep it loose so it doesn't all break, and keep the rest in place with goo.

 

[bearbear]

Some kind of goo can help to keep it together so you can keep something resembling a style in place. Are you cutting & styling differently as it grows, or just letting it all grow out?

If you haven't done this before, there's a second awkward stage once you can get a pony tail. You have a choice of waiting to tie it up or using something too tight that breaks the hair. If you want it to grow really long, you need a tie (and a routine) that doesn't break hairs, but that means a very loose tie. A compromise would be to tie it up sooner, and then loosen it about a year later to let the cut hairs catch up, and meet the ends that you're trimming.

In the mean time, maybe you can do like Qui-Gon Jinn, or some other short tail style, but use something gentle on your hair, keep it loose so it doesn't all break, and keep the rest in place with goo.

Thanks!

For now i'm using the brylcream and just combing it back for that wet look.
I need to get me some of those fabric coated elastics it seems

For the record, i had a 1/4 inch taken off about a week ago just to keep it even looking and get rid of the split ends. I'll probably just do this once every 4-6 months to keep presentable and comb it back. Its working so i'll stick with it.

 

[NightLad]

I once went through a long bout of laziness and just not bothering to get it cut. When it was about your length I either slicked it back or wore a hat and let the back do whatever it wanted.

Finally, during one especially hot summer, I was going to get it cut but then I read about a charity that collects hair to make wigs or partials for people with cancer. I just needed another inch or so to be able to donate, so I wanted. Then I learned that if I grew it a few more inches they could make twice the partials with it, so I figured, heck, I've gone this long without a haircut...

Long story short, I grew the hair (almost) to the small of my back and then cut it all off and sent in it. When it gets that long you really don't have a choice but to put it in a ponytail. I never had any issues with people. If anything I got some complements because of the color and thickness. Of the few people who did ask me why I didn't cut it, I just explained the reason and they were respectful about it. My Aunt, who had wanted to cut her long hair short for a while but never got around to it, looked into the program herself and used it as an excuse to cut her hair and help some people at the same time.

If you or any other members are interested, check out:
http://www.cutsforcancer.net/
http://hair.lovetoknow.com/Locks_of_Love
http://www.worldofwigs.com/wigs_fund.php
and use google to find many other worthy organizations in the US and abroad.

PS: I'm currently growing it out to donate again and it’s about your length. I use the hat method. Another inch or two and I'll cut or shave it. Oh, and most barbers know how to properly 'harvest' hair to send to these charities. Just ask.

 

[bearbear]

I once went through a long bout of laziness and just not bothering to get it cut. When it was about your length I either slicked it back or wore a hat and let the back do whatever it wanted.

Finally, during one especially hot summer, I was going to get it cut but then I read about a charity that collects hair to make wigs or partials for people with cancer. I just needed another inch or so to be able to donate, so I wanted. Then I learned that if I grew it a few more inches they could make twice the partials with it, so I figured, heck, I've gone this long without a haircut...

Long story short, I grew the hair (almost) to the small of my back and then cut it all off and sent in it. When it gets that long you really don't have a choice but to put it in a ponytail. I never had any issues with people. If anything I got some complements because of the color and thickness. Of the few people who did ask me why I didn't cut it, I just explained the reason and they were respectful about it. My Aunt, who had wanted to cut her long hair short for a while but never got around to it, looked into the program herself and used it as an excuse to cut her hair and help some people at the same time.

If you or any other members are interested, check out:
http://www.cutsforcancer.net/
http://hair.lovetoknow.com/Locks_of_Love
http://www.worldofwigs.com/wigs_fund.php
and use google to find many other worthy organizations in the US and abroad.

PS: I'm currently growing it out to donate again and it’s about your length. I use the hat method. Another inch or two and I'll cut or shave it. Oh, and most barbers know how to properly 'harvest' hair to send to these charities. Just ask.

awesome, i might just do that. Grow from shoulder length longer and cut enough for one.

 

[Tom C]

For now i'm using the brylcream and just combing it back for that wet look.

Check out a tube of Groom & Clean. I'm not sure if it has quite the holding power of Brylcreem, but it's water-soluble and is much easier to wash out (most of it just rinses out with water). G&C is readily available and inexpensive.

I'm fast approaching a really awkward point in my hair growing saga, and G&C is one of the products I've been using to keep things under control.

 

[waterbear]

Business in front, party in the back.
Missouri Compromise.

THAT would be a mullet!

 

[waterbear]

I have worn my hair in a ponytail from the very late 60's until 2004 when I cut it off because of a new job in education. I also have sported (and stils sport) some type of beard and mustache from the early 70's until present.
I am also a licensed barber.
I can tell you that at that 'in between' stage there is not much you can do other than cover it up or slick it down. I would try a hair gel. It will give you a wet loot and a lot of holding power until your hair grows out enough. Once you get past it, it's all gravy.
IMHO, a ponytail is quite acceptable to wear. You do need to keep it trimmed and properly conditioned to keep it looking good and it will take time to maintain. Avoid blowdrying if possible and do not tie it back while wet. Do not use rubber bands or you will have a lot of breakage and fly away hairs.
Used coated elsatics or, better yes, strips of rawhide or soft leather to tie back your hair.
If you are going to do anything that will cause your hair to 'flap in the wind' (biking, boating, motercycle, convertable car, etc.) then band the hair from scalp to end every 2-3" using coated elastics. Otherwise you might end up with some knots that would be very difficult, to say the least, to get out.

 

[Jatte]

Hey, im probably same look as you , same weight and waist but a 48 inch chest instead, and im only 5 10 or 11,

i grew my hair out for about 5 years, had it down to my ***, wore it out or in a pony tail,
if your gonna do the pony tail thing, firstly, if you do it now, dont have bangs, you can probably pull it back in a pony tail and tuck whatevers left behind your ears,

dont use greas,,, its gross,
and just wait it out, i just got mine cut to probably
14 or so in the front and 22 inches in the back, i got a good 12 or so inches cut off, and it feels great, i love this length , cause i almsot never wear it out , just pony tail, Oh yeah, have it in a low pony tail, not a high one like the girls wear like, just like, very bottom of hairline... looks less feminine,

remember to condition it so it doesnt look horrible,
dont blowdry or straighten it, i had abuddy that used to do that and his hair looks like absolute crap now,
and be nice to it when brushing..

it will reward you with dates
lol

So, i've been growing it out for about a year now, and its at that akward in between stage where its not quite long enough to throw into a ponytail, but a lil to long and thick, so i'm stuck with either slicking it mobster style with some brylcream or wearing a cap.

To put it into cliffs:
-Is a ponytail ok on a self respecting"manly man"(about 6'2, 220lbs, 50 inch chest, 34 inch waist)?
-what can i do for styling in the mean time, (about 7 inches or more all over)?
-continue growing it out or cut it short?

Kinda at a loss here folks, If there are any female members as well that could comment, it would be greatly appreciated as i don't have a SWMBO or to many female friends that look past my body when i ask them about it. 1 has said my long hair is "hot" (which was followed by an akward moment after she straddled me and told me she'd marry into my family one day, even though she had a boyfriend. Another told me she loves the goatee, neglected to comment on my hair, and i later found out she prefers shorter hair.

Sorry for the length...i just always thought long hairs and ponytails added a soft touch to a rugged exterior.

 

[kingfisher]

Just an FYI note here: Male pattern baldness is passed on by way of the X chromosome. Without getting too technical, that means that it is irrelevant what your dad's hair is like. You will get an idea what yours will do by looking at your grandpa on your mother's side. My dad has hair as thick as a paintbrush at 57, but I am loosing my hair (slowly) at 29. You guessed it; I have my grandpa to thank

This is simply not true. People have been saying this for years, but that doesn't change the fact that it's in error. In actuality, male pattern baldness is multigenic and very complex.

 

[mdunn]

I had long hair for a while. Before I could ponytail it (which I did) I just always was sunglasses rolled up onto my forehead, it kept the hair up and away from my eyes, without using any products in my hair (which I dont like)

 

[Mrs. Chip]

I think long hair on men is similar to long hair on a woman, it can look great! One needs to take care of it and make sure there is a style in it. This means the morning routine gets longer. If there isn't, this includes women, it ends up looking limp and blah which doesn't help one. I have heard that if one has long hair and only wears it back, then the hair starts to break where it is always tied and really, what then is the point? I am a fan of soft looking hair, the hair you look at and want to run your fingers through.

I had long hair (mid back) in university for a while because I couldn't afford a cut. I finally chopped it all off (to 1-3" all over) and was much happier with it because I could style it.

 

[waterbear]

It is true It is an x-linked trait (learned in genetics class just a couple of years ago )

If it is an X linked trait, it must, by definition, come from the mother's side. While environmental factors CAN contribute to balding, genetic male pattern baldness absolutely comes from the mother as males have XY chromosomes and females have XX chromosomes. Males by definition pass Y chromosomes to male offspring while females always pass X. Since it is an X linked trait, genetic male pattern baldness (which is what we have been talking about) absolutely comes from the mothers side. That is true

+1
the only reason pattern baldness is more common in men than woman is that the gene must come from both the mother and father for it to show up in a daughter and it usually only surfaces after menopause when the estrogen levels drop.
FWIW, estrogen is a cure for pattern baldness but does have some undesirable side effects in men such as breast growth and loss of body hair.

 

[wizardsbaker]

grow it out...you won't regret it!

 

[bearbear]

I've been following and taking it all in, thanks ladies and gents.

 

[tblech]

So, i've been growing it out for about a year now, and its at that akward in between stage where its not quite long enough to throw into a ponytail, but a lil to long and thick, so i'm stuck with either slicking it mobster style with some brylcream or wearing a cap.

To put it into cliffs:
-Is a ponytail ok on a self respecting"manly man"(about 6'2, 220lbs, 50 inch chest, 34 inch waist)?
-what can i do for styling in the mean time, (about 7 inches or more all over)?
-continue growing it out or cut it short?

Kinda at a loss here folks, If there are any female members as well that could comment, it would be greatly appreciated as i don't have a SWMBO or to many female friends that look past my body when i ask them about it. 1 has said my long hair is "hot" (which was followed by an akward moment after she straddled me and told me she'd marry into my family one day, even though she had a boyfriend. Another told me she loves the goatee, neglected to comment on my hair, and i later found out she prefers shorter hair.

Sorry for the length...i just always thought long hairs and ponytails added a soft touch to a rugged exterior.

I'm not much on the long hair thing for my self, but have seen long hair on men where it didn't look too bad. You need the advice of a beautician(sp?), someone who knows what your goal is and can dal with what you have until you get there. I have always gon to a barber and they are great for styl that need a clipper to achive, but not until I was going to get married did I try a salon, and the resutls were strikingly diffrent on a longer hair style. i've since gone back to short buzzed cuts, but the salon look was agreeable...