A Day At The Range/Gun of the day

[ctr]

Sighting in a new Winchester 1892 Carbine. Load is Winchester 45 Long Colt 255 grain cowboy.

100 yards. First shot low and left. Elevator adjustment 2 clicks up. Second shot high center. Elevator adjustment 1 click down. 2 shots 1 1/2 inches at 100 yards, iron sights, old man eyes.

50 yards on first elevator position first pair low. Adjusted using holdover feature of buckhorn sights.

First elevator position at 25 yards. This is where sight in started. Drifted rear sight to the right after the first pair of patched holes upper right.

This is a good load for this rifle, anything between 0 and 125 yards can be covered with a single elevator adjustment and the buckhorn holdover feature.

 

[dojpros]

Took the advice of a virtual shooting buddy when I was configuring an RDS G19 as I was looking to have a slightly more concealable EDC RDS pistol as I am back to a more tailored look with the end of summer

1. Gen5 Glock G19 MOS
2. DPP Plate
3. Holosun EPS 6 moa Red
4. Blue locktite 243 on the stick
5. Ameriglo 5353s
6. LTT grip plug

I had possession of the gun and gear by late July. It was fully 30 days before I could get the range for a zero session and a qual after installing everything.


The DPP plate “snapped” it very tightly. The supplied screws were pre loctitied and clearly marked as to location.
Torqued as per spec ( which for me is also good and tight with about a 1/10 more bearing down just a bit). Did the same for the optic. Let everything dry over night.

So far so good. The Optic was about 8 clicks high and about 6 clicks right at 12.5 yrds. Certainly minute of man accurate from the box. I was zeroing in a very hot indoor range.

Got 5 shot groups out to 15 that were 4 touching and a flyer. Staying in the 8 ring out to 25. (That is me, not the gun/optic). Then just shot a total of 200ish rounds to evaluate the gun, mags and what will be magpul dedicated practice mags.


Qualed with it this past Fri 50 rounds. After the qual and another 100ish of practice, I had an ever so right bias poi. Put another click to the left and stacked 5 round groups at 5 (1x) and 10 (2x) to the point I had a ragged hole. I will qual w it 1x more using duty ammo v the 124 Lawman FMJ, clean/lube it well and declare it EDC worthy.

That is me being a little OCD. I strongly suspect that it is ready to go with Speer 124 Gold Dot as we speak.

The 6 moa dot is bigger without being too big. I find that with my astigmatism, if I am not corrected, it seems to bloom a bit less that my 2 moa 507 on an Gen 3 G17 and my 3.25 Acro p2 on a Gen 3 G22.

I suspect that I will configure another just like it before the end of the year. Perhaps a brace of G45’s for 2025 with RDS TBD and I am done. (Well I am intrigued by the SA AOS 1911 single stack!)

 

[nortac]

@dojpros, have you ever looked at the ACSS Vulcan chevron reticle? There is a Holosun 507c version that features it in conjunction with Primary Arms. I'm considering it for my next pistol optic.

 

[dojpros]

I have online seen it on line. With my correction in, I think it would be fine. Without my correction and my astigmatism, I worry much much it would "blob" much more that a 2-6 moa dot.

 

[nortac]

I put my Glock 19 through it's paces, first time out since removing the hump from the grip. Also first time from my new MFT IWB holster and with the Streamlight TLR-7 attached. With the grip enhancement, the sights aligned quickly and and got back on target for rapid follow on shots. I can't say how having the Streamlight attached may have effected muzzle flip. The target above is a culmination of various speed drills from 5 and 7 yards, some from the holster, some from low ready, some strong hand only, some weak hand only. Drawing from the holster with the light attached was smooth and unhindered. Reholstering was not bad, but needs a bit of practice.

 

[dojpros]

That dog will hunt.

1. Reholstering w a new rig is always a bit of a process. Thankfully the need to speed reholster is minimal relative to presentation.

2. I am sure that the light has some mitigation on muzzle flip. I certainly “felt” that way when I was running a g35 w a TSR 1 from a circa 07/08 .62 Kydex holster from Raven Concealment back in the day. The best way to quantify that would be a cold side by side over two shooting sessions w a timer. Seems like a lot of work for the data point.

3. The likely over/under for you milling and refinish and a Holosun Optic is 500 ish. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the speed and accuracy pickup in the 7+ yrd envelope.

4. At 500ish rounds, I remain quite happy with my OEM Gen 5 G19 and a Holosun EPS full size 6 moa in red using a DPP Titanium plate.

5. I fully acknowledge that direct milling has fewer failure points and is better. I do believe for a CCW/EDC use case, MOS w a DPP plate is ”good enough” presuming proper degreasing, locktite and torque spec attachments. For Open carry duty use, you could probably talk me into only carrying a direct milled gun.

 

[nortac]

That dog will hunt.

5. I fully acknowledge that direct milling has fewer failure points and is better. I do believe for a CCW/EDC use case, MOS w a DPP plate is ”good enough” presuming proper degreasing, locktite and torque spec attachments. For Open carry duty use, you could probably talk me into only carrying a direct milled gun.

'Splain this distinction, why not for CCW? What am I missing?

 

[nortac]

I shot my Glock 19 with it's modified grip, attached weapon light and new MFT Pro series IWB holster in our weekly RSO match this morning. This match further confirmed that the iron sights aligned naturally and more quickly and recovered better for follow up shots. No downside shooting with the weapon light attached, holster worked fine as well. We added some shooting on the move on one stage. We also had a couple of stages where you had to crouch and shoot through a small window to engage a plate rack. It's fun when we increase the challenges. Not quite as dynamic as a real IDPA match, but we're getting there!

 

[Rob72]

'Splain this distinction, why not for CCW? What am I missing?

Not dojpros, but I believe he is alluding to the fact that mounting plates raise the optic and will require longer bolts. On an OC/duty gun, higher profile means hella-lots-more-beats & knocks, greater chance of optic damage, sheared/worked-out bolts, etc..

 

[JCinPA]

My club rana Carbine I course, 1-1/2 hours classroom, about 4 hours on the range, with reloading drills, trigger reset drills, shoot-while-moving drills, shoot-scoot-shoot behind cover drills, and finally the Army qualification 25-yard reduced target shoot. Much fun. Used club-owned S&W M&P 15-22 sporters in .22LR. Second course next month we will shoot our own carbines with 5.56.

 

[nortac]

Weekly RSO match today, steel plates and silhouette targets. I ran my Glock 19 and came in 5th, middle of the pack score wise.

 

[nortac]

This weeks' RSO match was shot with center fire revolvers. I usually shoot my S&W 686 with .38 Spl., but I decided to switch things up a bit and ran my Ruger SP 101 with moderately loaded .32 H&R mag, 94 gr. bullet at 850 FPS, good enough to take down steel plates at 10 yds. I placed about as I usually do, 4th place.

 

[nortac]

Over all success using the RMR sight on my modified Glock 19. Brain fart caused me to have a couple of procedural errors/penalties, but I still managed 6th place. Can't blame that on the equipment!

 

[nortac]

After working as an RSO today and the range closed, I managed to get in a few rounds on paper from my AR 10 in 6.5 Creedmoor. Five rounds at 100 yards. Group measures approximately 0.709 CTC.

 

[Jmp63]

After working as an RSO today and the range closed, I managed to get in a few rounds on paper from my AR 10 in 6.5 Creedmoor. Five rounds at 100 yards. Group measures approximately 0.709 CTC.View attachment 1926352View attachment 1926353

Awesome looking setup sir! Would you mind sharing your build list? I just picked up an Aero M5 stripped lower and am planning on a .308 build.

 

[nortac]

Awesome looking setup sir! Would you mind sharing your build list? I just picked up an Aero M5 stripped lower and am planning on a .308 build.

Short version:
Aero Precision upper, lower, forearm, NiBoron BCG
Wilson combat 24 in. barrel, VG6 muzzle brake
Superlative Arms adjustable gas block
Trigger Tech adjustable trigger
Radian charging handle, safety
Strike Industries bolt release
Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5x-27 x 56, 34 mm tube scope, cantilever mount and bubble level
Magpul PRS stock, magazine
Ergo Tactical grip
Atlas PRS bipod
JP Industries Silent Captured Spring System
assorted V7 pins and small parts

 

[JCinPA]

My son came down to visit today and we went to breakfast, then to our club range. I gifted him a highly smithed Springfield Marine Corps Operator when he graduated from college, and I recently installed a hand-fit bushing on it myself, which was quite tight. So we took that to shoot 100 rounds through it to shoot it in, and she was right as rain at the end of the session. With all new ignition parts, trigger job, and Wilson Bulletproof extractor and slide stop, and an EGW squared off FP stop, and my bushing (Bunker Arms radial bore) it is about 95% of a Wilson Combat or Nighthawk, but at about $1,300, all in.

I brought my Wilson Combat SFX9, and Kevin brought a Star BM 9mm, which is a sweet little surplus 9mm can be had for about $400 these days. I didn't take any photos but here are the guns from Internet photos.

 

[Lockback]

My son came down to visit today and we went to breakfast, then to our club range. I gifted him a highly smithed Springfield Marine Corps Operator when he graduated from college, and I recently installed a hand-fit bushing on it myself, which was quite tight. So we took that to shoot 100 rounds through it to shoot it in, and she was right as rain at the end of the session. With all new ignition parts, trigger job, and Wilson Bulletproof extractor and slide stop, and an EGW squared off FP stop, and my bushing (Bunker Arms radial bore) it is about 95% of a Wilson Combat or Nighthawk, but at about $1,300, all in.

I brought my Wilson Combat SFX9, and Kevin brought a Star BM 9mm, which is a sweet little surplus 9mm can be had for about $400 these days. I didn't take any photos but here are the guns from Internet photos.

Nice job on the Operator!
I had a Star BM 9mm many years ago and it really impressed me a solid gun and excellent shooter. It's one of those I sort of wish I had back but I was swapping guns back in those days as often as most people change underwear.

 

[JCinPA]

We/ve all been there, @Lockback For some inexplicable reason I had an old Star PD .45 ACP I sold to get something else. Wish I hadn't.

Yes, the Operator is super sweet. I've had a Nighthawk GRP Recon, and I have the Wilson, but I've had good luck getting Springfields or Kimbers, sending them to great pistolsmiths, and having them done to my specification and I end up with very close to a WC or NH at less than half the cost.

My son's Marine Core Operator now has about 1,300 rounds through it, and it's still very tight, hard to start the slide to rack, because of the slide stop and barrel bushing. It runs flawlessly, it's just really tight. I'll load some .45 ACP over the holidays and put another 500-1,000 through it and I am willing to bet it will feel as good as the higher-end semi-customs. It's a tack driver, and my son loves it.

We both collect older guns, he' into Makarovs, but there is just something about good old slabsides. I don't seem to fall in love with any of my other pistols as much as I do the classic 1911. The SFX9 is identical to the Browning design, just in 9mm. I love the ergos on it. It's one of my carry guns, along with a highly-customized Kimber Compact CDP in .45, and a snubby for quick trips to the store or gas station.

 

[Jmp63]

Short version:
Aero Precision upper, lower, forearm, NiBoron BCG
Wilson combat 24 in. barrel, VG6 muzzle brake
Superlative Arms adjustable gas block
Trigger Tech adjustable trigger
Radian charging handle, safety
Strike Industries bolt release
Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5x-27 x 56, 34 mm tube scope, cantilever mount and bubble level
Magpul PRS stock, magazine
Ergo Tactical grip
Atlas PRS bipod
JP Industries Silent Captured Spring System
assorted V7 pins and small parts

Thank you sir!