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    Thumbs up Microscope edge pics

    Found this and found it interesting. It's Tim Zowada's website where he shows different edges from different whetstones synthetic and natural as a comparison chart. The cool part is he took the time to have the pics taken from the same angle with the same light source on a mounted microscope

    Here is the link http://www.tzknives.com/razoredges.html

    Understand this isn't conclusive evidence of what works better, just thought I would share my interest. :)
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    I used his website as a guide for my microscopy.
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    Wow...

    C12k looks pretty good!
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    fascinating!!! can't wait for my jewelor's loop to arrive!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cb91710 View Post
    Wow...

    C12k looks pretty good!
    some of my best edges came off my c12k....

    it is a truly underrated stone...
    a nice walk in the woods helps me relax and relieves tension....

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco664 View Post
    some of my best edges came off my c12k....

    it is a truly underrated stone...
    I'm happy with mine. And heck, for $30? Sure, it's a little narrow and needs a solid X-stroke, but it's sweet and stays flat forever. Very slow and forgiving stone.

    Even though my progression includes a Naniwa 12k, I still do 200 laps on the Cnat before moving to CrOX/linen on my 127.
    Next session I think I'll skip the CrOX and go from the Cnat to the Kanayama linen>suede>leather
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    try it with CBN spray on it.... oh my the edges.... light saber city....
    a nice walk in the woods helps me relax and relieves tension....

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco664 View Post
    some of my best edges came off my c12k....

    it is a truly underrated stone...
    I agree completely, some of them are much finer than 12k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paco664 View Post
    try it with CBN spray on it.... oh my the edges.... light saber city....
    I'm still waiting on my order of pico-paper to arrive from Seraphim
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    lol.... BTW....

    seraphims edges look better than any of those in that link...


    just sayin....
    a nice walk in the woods helps me relax and relieves tension....

    the fact i'm dragging a shovel and a body should be irrelevant...

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    Lightning is everything when it comes ot scope pics.
    In order to get the best/truest pics, the lightning should always be as ruthless as possible.

    Clay Allison of Wicked Edge just got an 800x scope in.
    Crazy stuff!
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    I really wish Zowada had those pics at 400x. There's so much more edge detail there. Even 800x would still show improvement. At 200x, to my eyes it's almost binary Crap/Notcrap.


    Those 800x pics are awesome to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honed View Post
    Lightning is everything when it comes ot scope pics.
    In order to get the best/truest pics, the lightning should always be as ruthless as possible.

    Clay Allison of Wicked Edge just got an 800x scope in.
    Crazy stuff!
    http://www.wickededgeusa.com/index.p...4761&Itemid=63
    What is he referring to "100# Diamonds" and "600# stones"?
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    100 grit and 600grit.

    100grit is a coarse pocketknife stone. For comparison I believe a DMT XXC is 120grit.

    600grit is DMT F.
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    Okay, so that explains the roughness of the edges.

    I was thinking I was looking at extreme magnification of what we consider to be a "good" hone job.
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    Yah, those are actually incredibly nice for such low grits. Must be good hones and real easy pressure. Also I think that's likely a knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paco664 View Post
    lol.... BTW....

    seraphims edges look better than any of those in that link...


    just sayin....
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    beautiful razors, and i am sure they will shave fine. but after seeing seraphims pics,, i wasnt as impressed as i thought id be.
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    It's the only collage of edges from different whetstones I could find. I liked it just because it shows edges off some of the most commonly used whetstones (something I have wanted to do myself). Even if there is no scientific data to show, it still peaked my interest.

    Seraphims Microscope work is very interesting as well, I want to get a usb scope myself eventually.
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    Those photos were just a quick study to see how the hones cut. Nothing more. Don't try to read too much in to them.

    I now use 1200x to see what is really happening. Unfortunately, I can't take good pictures at 1200x. Last month, I got access to a SEM. I will post photos as they become available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Zowada View Post
    Last month, I got access to a SEM. I will post photos as they become available.
    That I going to look rough. Heck glass looks rough with a SEM.
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