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Mitchells Wool Fat Shaving Soap is no longer Tallow based
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Agreed, MWF likes a heavy load with a barely damp brush and lots of building before much water is added, in my experience.
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I think it's interesting that the reformulation has already been reformulated.
marty
marty
I think it's interesting that the reformulation has already been reformulated.
marty
Resistance is futile.
Yes, even the makers knew that something was wrong.I think it's interesting that the reformulation has already been reformulated.
marty
Can they earn my trust enough to try the reformulation? Sure. They just have to add the tallow back.
Fortunately, I have a stock of tallow versions, so the impact won't hit me for years, but it was still disappointing news. I know there are many who place an importance on vegan ingredients. I respect their choice but don't share their motivation. Palm oil demand is threatening the survival of orangutans, so I wouldn't consider the palm oil version an ethical win. I guess this will motivate me to explore more artisan soaps with tallow.
Can I just say how much I enjoy the fact that this thread is still cooking nearly a year later? Real dedication.
I find it usually takes between about 18 months and upwards of several years, for the average member to get over the travesty of tallow removal from a classic soap.
We could be halfway through the grieving process! (I guess there's six stages now). Looks like the main curve of this lot are in the bargaining phase.
I've lost track of the conversation after 86 pages of replies over the months, so apologies if this was already addressed - did we ever find out if they gave an official excuse for removing the tallow? Was it to appease the vegan religion, or cost, or adequate supply, or... ?
I think the working theory is that tallow availability for soapmaking is limited due the demand for manufacturing aviation biofuels.
EclipseRedRing
I smell like a Christmas pudding
That is what I thought but I do not understand why there is apparently still a ready availability of tallow to produce hand and bath soaps, including apparently by Mitchell's. Seemingly it is only shave soaps for which tallow is severly limited or prohibitively expensive.
I sometimes wonder if it’s due to activists rights groups becoming involved. Companies don’t want to be perceived as not caring or in tune with current thoughts or trends. Also younger management seems to be solely based on profit, not what customers want or are accustomed to. I worked for a company that would gobble up the competition. My saying was that they just made a great company good. All the products would be diluted in quality to meet profit margins.
I miss the scent and performance of the the original. MWF has a real following, brand loyalty, location, all the things a business works years to build. The new formulation was performed poorly enough to make me angry.
Surely, MWF reads the forums. MWF could learn a lot from some of the artisan makers. Hint.
Dear MWF, we are counting on you to sort this out properly.
Surely, MWF reads the forums. MWF could learn a lot from some of the artisan makers. Hint.
Dear MWF, we are counting on you to sort this out properly.
I forgot to consider another possibility, which is that the MWF outfit was acquired by Hindus, who adjusted the formula according to their beliefs.
Mike M
...but this one IS cracked.
Surely if soap-makers read the B&B forums after all that's been written about Arko they'd have learned to produce a soap that doesn't smell like a urinal puck!
The New Coke fiasco comes to mind.
Ive been holding back on my puck of original formula Cade from L'occitane because they reformulated. Looks like i'll set my MWF up on the same shelf.
They should also change its name to be less offensive. Perhaps "Mitchell's Leanness-Challenged" or "Mitchell's Lipid-Plus."
