Shave report on the Friodur, absolutely on point. Thanks everyone for the tips, this thread has been really useful to me.
Yet another coticules for idiots thread
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NICE! Well your posts make me want to start honing and shaving. Love to see success after some hard work
There is a reason it's the unofficial state bird. Maybe thats why so many Norwegian's settled here.I have one like that. It's also really small so it doesn't get used much.
Same here in Minnesota.But in all seriousness, that's good advice. Coticules seem to respond well to a little more pressure at the beginning of every stage, relative to other stones.
To the question why coticules? They are pretty. They are fun to use. Even if used as a step stone to let's say Thuri, why not. Life is short, do whatever makes you happy. I don't hone for living, speed, efficiency, don't matter to me. End result, great shave and enjoying the process is what I am after.
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It’s sad that most of the vets that really know what they’re talking about rarely post here anymore. It’s dying a not so slow death and threads like this aren’t helping matters.
Well I got good news to report as well!
Shaved with the 4k hayabusa to coticule edge today and it was great, very keen, the keeness felt like a well honed lvl 5+ Jnat.
The comfort however was closer to a full coticule edge comparing to the 8k to coticule jump.
Scratch pattern under the scope looked like a true coticule edge, ugly ugly ugly, that's how I knew the shave was going to be nice and comfortable.
@JPO Once again right about random garnets making ugly scratches but that not affecting the actual performance and feel of the razor.
Putting the miles on these stones is paying off nicely!
Shaved with the 4k hayabusa to coticule edge today and it was great, very keen, the keeness felt like a well honed lvl 5+ Jnat.
The comfort however was closer to a full coticule edge comparing to the 8k to coticule jump.
Scratch pattern under the scope looked like a true coticule edge, ugly ugly ugly, that's how I knew the shave was going to be nice and comfortable.
@JPO Once again right about random garnets making ugly scratches but that not affecting the actual performance and feel of the razor.
Putting the miles on these stones is paying off nicely!
Well, you just trusted your instinct and moved right passed all the honemister neon lights.
No one had even time to yell at you 'do what you are told young man or get off my lawn'
Sometimes fresh blood with a new perspective is not as bad as people might think.
A paradigm shift will probably have to wait but newbies might start to look to people they can relate to in a younger age group.
They just have to look at a cavalcade of your journey last year. Going from 0 to 100, from newbie to mentor is quite the feat in this short amount of time.
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IF it gets opened back up, and there is one lick of trouble from "the usual suspects" they'll find themselves seeking other pastures to ridicule, belittle, argue and talk smack.
No amount of expertise in rubbing steel on a rock is worth the crap that constantly comes up in these Honing Threads.
3 or 4 fellows are going to be lonely if it keeps up.
Grow up.
The title of the thread is
It's not a challenge.
IF it gets opened back up, and there is one lick of trouble from "the usual suspects" they'll find themselves seeking other pastures to ridicule, belittle, argue and talk smack.
No amount of expertise in rubbing steel on a rock is worth the crap that constantly comes up in these Honing Threads.
3 or 4 fellows are going to be lonely if it keeps up.
Grow up.
The title of the thread is
Yet another coticules for idiots thread
It's not a challenge.
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Please be decent to each other.
Since the thread is back open here's some thoughts on today's honing on my Falcon (Japanese blade). I started with fairly light slurry. Probably lighter than the last one I did. It still took a while to get to clean water though. Starting to get more of a read on what is happening to the edge through the dilutions. Somewhere in the middle of that I ended up doing a lot more sets of half strokes before adding water, for a bit, and then the "feel" changed pretty noticeably and I started diluting a little more frequently (still one drop at a time though).
Towards the end, instead of adding water to the thin slurry, I just rinsed the blade and kept going back to the stone until it was clear. Interestingly the HHT was ok at that point, if I'd done a full round of stropping on linen and leather I'm sure it would have shaved just fine. Did several sets of light x-strokes on clear water rinsing every 10. This did improve the edge a little. More than the last couple razors. Probably could have gone longer there but I now know that a few laps on oil will get me to the finish line quicker. Did 15 on oil, noticed that the toe felt subtly less smooth (and HHT was weaker there) so did a few more focusing on the toe with just a hair more pressure. Then a few more very light laps to bring it all together. HHT was good off the stone and the shave was on point. Really great glide but also really close. Didn't feel sharp at all but definitely was.
I'm thinking for the next time I may limit the water- only laps or skip that step completely. Feedback at the finishing stage is easier to read on oil on this stone for some reason.
Towards the end, instead of adding water to the thin slurry, I just rinsed the blade and kept going back to the stone until it was clear. Interestingly the HHT was ok at that point, if I'd done a full round of stropping on linen and leather I'm sure it would have shaved just fine. Did several sets of light x-strokes on clear water rinsing every 10. This did improve the edge a little. More than the last couple razors. Probably could have gone longer there but I now know that a few laps on oil will get me to the finish line quicker. Did 15 on oil, noticed that the toe felt subtly less smooth (and HHT was weaker there) so did a few more focusing on the toe with just a hair more pressure. Then a few more very light laps to bring it all together. HHT was good off the stone and the shave was on point. Really great glide but also really close. Didn't feel sharp at all but definitely was.
I'm thinking for the next time I may limit the water- only laps or skip that step completely. Feedback at the finishing stage is easier to read on oil on this stone for some reason.
Nice to see the thread back open. Even better to see some getting results they are happy with. Love reading the success stories.
Good job Matt
Good job Matt
Thanks Rick. Not sure why this approach is working so much better for me than others I've tried that seemed similar.
I’m just glad it’s working for ya.
Meant to add earlier, I've had good results going from an 8k (Fuji) to this coticule, with oil, but the edges I've made over the last few days on slurry and then ending on oil have been better. Smoother, more pleasant, and no less keen.
For the record, I am both enjoying this thread and this thread provided me with the impetus to dive back into the Dilucot. Happy to see it back open!
If you watch the Gary videos, you will see him doing this as well. As you add the drops of water and the slurry is breaking down, you sometimes just need to make adjustments. Lots a factors like the rate of your laps and whether the water is evaporating from the winter heat. My house is very dry.
If you have a good BBW, I feel like they can add an additional level of smoothness to an edge. Worth trying out if the slurry progression is going well.
Are you talking as a base stone or a a slurry stone? The BBW side of the slurry stone I've been using actually works pretty great, in fact I like it better on the other, super hard bout I have.
Speaking of. I need to figure that one out too. It's small, very hard, and very slow on water. Haven't spent much time on it either.
Yes. This.
I finish on oil maybe 90% of the time now. IMO for me, on the stones I own, I see a noticeable bump in both keenness and comfort. I often 2 stone hone and finish on oil on a Verte or one of my vintages, they hard as woodpecker lips.
