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Great point, Andrew.
Most men comtinue to use their Fusion or Mach 3 razors and shaving gel or foam in cans, thinking DE shaving or Straight shaving is something "old" or something that no longer belongs to modern people.
And what is more unpleasant is that those men are really losing one of the greatest things a man can have: a true, clean and comfortable shave, or what here we call a "wet shave".
If there is no big interest in wet shaving, then it is clear that there is no interest for common stores and sellers to offer shaving item that men, unfortunately, would not buy.

My father used to wetshave with brush/mug/DE

He prefers to use canned gel and Mach 3

He will never go back to traditional shaving
 
Is it that Schick and Gillette have their hooks in the retail stores to the point that they don't dare carry a selection of DE supplies?

It is not impossible: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/bargains-and-rip-offs/article.html?in_article_id=487419&in_page_id=5

Is it that the cartridge and goo-in-a-can stuff is simply too profitable for the stores to give up shelf space?
To me it seems a market for shaving cartridges is so much more larger in developed countries, that profit from DE blades is truly insignificant, next to nothing compared to a cartridge market. Something which managements from brick and mortar and similar stores find not worth bothering with. However, all of it can be found scattered through men's grooming stores and barber shops.
And, sorry but goo-in-a-can and men's other shaving cosmetics are not really specifics to shaving with Double Edge blades. There are people who enjoy nice creams, boar or badger brashes and or soaps, and use mach3, fusion, Schick quatro, and other cartridges.
 
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Good. I'm glad. Aren't you all?

I like using better quality, that isn't readily available.

It adds to the fun.

Its cool being that little bit more exclusive.
 
With all the DE shaving related websites such as B&B, all the online stores selling razors, blades, and real shaving creams and soaps, why don't the brick-and-mortar stores carry any of the things we need? Aside from Wally World selling VDH soap and Personna blades, and the drug store chains carrying store brand blades for $7 a 10-pack, there's nothing out there. Clearly, based on the number of recent articles in mags about DE shaving, the traffic on this and other sites, and the number of online stores, there is plenty of sales to be made. Is it that Schick and Gillette have their hooks in the retail stores to the point that they don't dare carry a selection of DE supplies? Is it that the cartridge and goo-in-a-can stuff is simply too profitable for the stores to give up shelf space? Do the stores consider DE shaving a fringe thing?


It depends on the brick and mortar store. While the chains probably will not do it there are specialty stores that want to differentiate from the Walmart-Target-Kmart axis and the drug chains. I was at one today that is more of a bed and bath place which carriers a rack of Castle Forbes, Proraso and Musgo products in addition to Edwin Jagger and Derby blades. The shopkeeper said that they're adding Jack Black soon. So they are out there - you simply have to find these diamonds in the rough and keep going back once you find them.
 
As pointed out, the margin per square foot of retail space for DE blades and accessories is not sufficient for the Big Box stores.

If you want to help expand the market, I would recommend starting with the "Green" movement and health stores. Particularly the high school and college age guys (and gals) that are "new" to shaving. Emphasize not only the closer shave without the razor rash, but the fact that DEs are 100% biodegradable and recyclable.

See the thread from a couple days ago on disposing DEs, homemade Blade Banks and recycling.
 
This hobby wouldn't be appealing if you could get these products at your local discount store or drug store and everyone was doing it.

This forum certainly wouldn't exist, because what would the big deal be?

We are interested in this because the kind of shaving we do went out with the milkman, the diaper service, the one income family, the Brooklyn Dodgers, the soda jerk at Woolworth, Route 66, the Blue Plate Special, and the rotary telephone. We are the guardians of an art form when it was done right and people took the time to do it right.

Ever wonder how Ward Cleaver, Teddy Roosevelt, and Babe Ruth shaved? :wink2:
 
The VDH soaps are still on the shelves, at least here locally. I think they just discontinued the set with the soap, a boar brush and a shave bowl. Too bad, too, because I wanted to get one of those bowls, and would have liked a boar brush, too. Guess I'll just have to drop a little more money now.:biggrin1:

The last time I looked I saw them in Rite Aid. You should still be able to get them there.
 

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No, no, no...

This!
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How about forming a militant Wetshaving protection leaque...something like Earth First, but for shaving. The symbol can be a clenched fist holding a super speed, and we can go around vandalizing billboards for the Fusion. Let's see if they ignore us then!

:lol:

Judge: You were arrested because you destroyed a few Gillette Fusion in public, do you have anything to say
Wetshaver: They're Evil!
Gillette Lawyer: OBJECTION!

:lol:
 
And those 25000 members are spread out all over the world, so it's actually even less than that.

AND, consider the fact that we are all really into the whole experience. Ther may be a ton more out there who are but just do not know about this place and then there are those who shave and just do not care or view it as a chore, which was me befor I discovered DE shaving and this place.
 
The last time I looked I saw them in Rite Aid. You should still be able to get them there.

Blast! No Rite-Aids, either.:cursing: I'm doomed to choosing alternate means of working up a comfortable lather! Something like dropping a puck of VDH into my vintage Old Spice mug and using a Tweezerman badger brush. Somehow, I guess I'll get by...:001_rolle
 
I believe that DE shaving and straight shaving is a unique thing in these times for the majority. With this being said I think its best to give any business to specialty stores that carry these items whether at an actual storefront or website. People should give these type of stores their business anyways compared to massive corporations that tend to close them down.
 
its kind of a catch 22 isnt it? if the big box places carried it, you wouldn't get the service you need from a specialty place.

and the big box places dont carry it cos there isnt a demand and there is a brainwashing with wetshaving being cumbersome so it wouldnt sell the massive amounts the big box people want in order to bother carrying it.
 
We are interested in this because the kind of shaving we do went out with the milkman, the diaper service, the one income family, the Brooklyn Dodgers, the soda jerk at Woolworth, Route 66, the Blue Plate Special, and the rotary telephone.

I have a black rotary desk phone dated 1955, too. :001_tt2:
 
In the end, I suppose it's for the better. Although it would be nice to be able to get Russian blades, a nice Brit cream and a badger brush in the same isle infested with cartridges and cans of goo at my local grocery store or X-mart, I'm OK with internet shopping. If Wally World were to jump on th DE bandwagon, they would demand that Merkur and Jagger razors be made in China and that European soaps and creams be made cheaper, and ultimately would force the smaller online retailers who know what they're selling out of business. As long as I can get what I want at a good price, there's no problem with online shopping. And I like the idea that I'm shopping with stores and sellers that are helpful and straightforward about what they sell. No advertizing budget as big as the GDP of a small country, no celebrity endorsed promises and claims that can't be met, no inflated prices because the CEO needs a gold plated toilet-paper dispenser on his yacht.
 
+1, Gearhead. I think it would be better for all of us if the Evil Empire (My pet name for the local Wal-mart) stayed out of the DE/Wetshaving business for good. Everything they touch will eventually be destroyed!
 
This hobby wouldn't be appealing if you could get these products at your local discount store or drug store and everyone was doing it.

This forum certainly wouldn't exist, because what would the big deal be?

We are interested in this because the kind of shaving we do went out with the milkman, the diaper service, the one income family, the Brooklyn Dodgers, the soda jerk at Woolworth, Route 66, the Blue Plate Special, and the rotary telephone. We are the guardians of an art form when it was done right and people took the time to do it right.

Ever wonder how Ward Cleaver, Teddy Roosevelt, and Babe Ruth shaved? :wink2:

I've been shaving just about every day for decades and always used a DE. It's the only razor I ever used. I didn't even know the razor i used had a name until reciently. I just always thought of it as my razor. I never thought of it in nostalgic terms either. It occured to me that something was up as I am able to get 5 Wilkinson DE blades from just about every discount store around for about $1 but I haven't seen a DE razor for sale in a store for as long as I can remember. The only thing it made me think about was who was buying all these blades?
 
I'm sure B&B is only a small fraction of the wet shavers out there. It is the dedicated fraction though. I am trying to convert some of my friends. The subject of SE Barber shaves just came up on the Miata Forum I frequent, so we are not the only ones thinking about it.

I have been using a Mug and Badger Brush for 45 years, but only discovered B&B when I could not find Williams anymore. Then I also discovered DE shaving, RAD and SBAD:biggrin1:. I haven't used a cartridge or an electric since I started with the DE. I also got a travel brush so I would not have to use Goo when I traveled. Now I'm getting ready to restore some of my older Ever Ready brushes.
 
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