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Running a Marathon....

Mark, does TrainingPeaks provide actual coaching and training plans for someone like me? I don't want to pay for that premium membership if it won't help me.
 
Then we're the same height.

I'm not a big a liar as you. My DL only says 5'9". :lol::lol::lol:

I think I cannibalized some of my bikes and sold some parts but this one is only missing the seat but I have a Fizik time trial saddle if you're interested in the bike. Also the wetsuit. It'll be a good deal:wink2:
 
I've decided I want to run a marathon or at least a half marathon. Indy has a great half marathon, but there's no way I'll be ready by May when it takes place.

I have a lot of past running training, but I was solely a sprinter so the vast majority of it doesn't exactly transfer over.

I have a solid cardio base being an avid recreational cyclist. I started cycling last summer and in that time I have logged about 3400 miles to give you a base of my fitness level. However I have done little running in that time and with the way we've been hit by snow this winter, I haven't run at winter up until yesterday when I jogged 3 very slow, mildly agonizing miles a few hours after a 30 mile ride.

There is a Half and Full Marathon here in mid October. I want to compete in it. I'd love to do the marathon, but the Half is much more realistic.

I'm lost though on where to start. I need a training plan to get myself in decent running shape and then another plan to train for the specific race I'll be running in October. I have a tendency to over-train and get hurt if left to my own devices so I want to do this the right way.

Where should I start? All help and advice is welcome and greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!

Dude, you could tackle a 1/2 by May. I had a two year hiatus from running. In July of '08 I started again and in Sept I ran a 10K. I think you could get there, go for it! As for a Marathon... I just don't think I'd ever be interested but more power to you.
 
Dude, you could tackle a 1/2 by May. I had a two year hiatus from running. In July of '08 I started again and in Sept I ran a 10K. I think you could get there, go for it! As for a Marathon... I just don't think I'd ever be interested but more power to you.

As much as I appreciate the vote of confidence, I don't think I can. Unless I get hurt, I'm certain I can do at least that by October, my time won't be anything to brag about, but I can finish and that after all is my goal.
 
As much as I appreciate the vote of confidence, I don't think I can. Unless I get hurt, I'm certain I can do at least that by October, my time won't be anything to brag about, but I can finish and that after all is my goal.

Well, then...

Good luck in October! :thumbup1:
 
Mark, does TrainingPeaks provide actual coaching and training plans for someone like me? I don't want to pay for that premium membership if it won't help me.

There are actual coaches that you pay on a per race basis through TP. They basically send you your workouts through the calendar and you input the results of the training and they adjust the work outs.

My suggestion is to buy a program itself. They sell marathon (1/2, full) plans, triathlon (sprint, Olympic, 1/2 iron and Ironman) programs and they load onto your calender.

Paul Huddle use to coach me through there and it was unbelievable experience but it was pricey. Though I learned enough to make my own plans using the calender it was nice having someone look at your progress.

The calender is what is best. If you plan on marathons I'll send you a training program that our company uses for our employees. We sponsor the PF Changs Rock n' Roll Marathon here in Phoenix. We had over 100 employees complete it this year.
 
Hi Tim,

If you're looking for a training methodology that incorporates more short intervals, weight training, and overall variety, check out CrossFit Endurance.

http://crossfitendurance.com/page/index.php?menu=about&page=gettingstarted

Thanks for the link to CrossFit Endurance. I took a break from crossfit for a couple of months to do some Rippetoe-type strength training. I just started up with crossfit again and this looks like it provides even more depth to the program.
 
Well, looks like I'm jumping on the conversation late. I just read the whole thread and found that you've already bought the Hal Higdon book, which I'm sure will do well for you. In case someone else reads through this and is looking for resources, the Houston Chronicle newspaper has some good week-by-week schedules that they post to help people with the local marathon every year. I used the beginner routine for my first marathon - going from non-runner to marathoner in 6 months.

Here's the link for the Beginner Plan, they also have Intermediate and Advanced Plans for people of those levels.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/run/971152.html

My advice is to start out the race much slower than you feel like you can go and then speed up in the second half. My first marathon I ran with someone else for the first half and crossed the half in 1:36, but I took 2:40 for the second half!! After many more marathons I still have trouble running the first part slow and the second part faster. The quote that I try to keep in mind is that for a marathon, its really a 20 mile training run with a 10k race at the end.

Good luck with your training! Enjoy the race! And feel good about your accomplishment afterwards!
 
As much as I appreciate the vote of confidence, I don't think I can. Unless I get hurt, I'm certain I can do at least that by October, my time won't be anything to brag about, but I can finish and that after all is my goal.

Tim,

Just remember the golden rule...increase your total mileage per week no more than 10% each week.

I've stuck by this running rule and found its worked well to keep me healthy and injury free. I dont think the rule is completely set in stone...I've toyed over the line occassionally but for the most part, I try to stick to it!
 
I'm doing a triathlon or two this summer, any advice on balancing triathlon (sprint distance) with marathon training?
 
I'm doing a triathlon or two this summer, any advice on balancing triathlon (sprint distance) with marathon training?

That's a piece of cake. If you're marathon training you shouldn't need to adjust your training for sprint. You'll be done in 30 minutes :w00t:

Road races are good to incorporate because it helps keep fitness up.
 
I've never really been "in shape" but I've just started Couch to 5k feels good so far. You never know, If I keep it up I might be able to do a half marathon in a year or two. Hmmm I'm 27 now, marathon by 30 could be a decent motivating goal...
 
I've never really been "in shape" but I've just started Couch to 5k feels good so far. You never know, If I keep it up I might be able to do a half marathon in a year or two. Hmmm I'm 27 now, marathon by 30 could be a decent motivating goal...

What are your stats now, Jordan? At 27 I suspect you could run your first Marathon if you really wanted to in the 6-12 month range.
 
What are your stats now, Jordan? At 27 I suspect you could run your first Marathon if you really wanted to in the 6-12 month range.

6'2" 238Lbs - mostly soft pounds :blushing:

I'm trying to get into shape for upcoming backpacking trips, but I'm enjoying the running more than I thought I would, plus all these marathon comments are pretty inspiring, sounds fun.

I just need to get more serious about my diet now.
 
6'2" 238Lbs - mostly soft pounds :blushing:

I'm trying to get into shape for upcoming backpacking trips, but I'm enjoying the running more than I thought I would, plus all these marathon comments are pretty inspiring, sounds fun.

I just need to get more serious about my diet now.

Meh, at your height even if you are "soft" 238 isn't horrible. A good friend of mine was 6'4" 278lbs when he decided to run his first marathon. He did it on a very strict/planned regiment. He ran a half at 12 weeks and a full at 24. He got the bug bad. Now he is about 225 and runs like a deer.

Best of luck!
 
+1...if you can find a race that meets your mileage requirement for the week, doesn't put you too far over the 10% rule...go for it!

Sometimes it's good to throw yourself off a bit (muscle confusion) but I recommend doing it in the base phase of your training.
 
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