Recommend a .40 S&W handgun

[flycbyrd]

Live in a place with a lot of zombies and I mean a lot of zombies, think zombie land. you never know when you may need the extra capacity. Or maybe the real thing is I am lazy and do not want to reload magazines that often when buying a standard sized frame pistol.

if you willing to spend the extra dough try the five-seven.
service frame, i think 17+1 mag, and it comes with 3 mags
and a carrying case, some other stuff too.its not a 40 s&w
but the bullets are def just as lethal as 40s&w and the
bullets are cheap compared to 40 s&w, only problem the
gun cost around 1200-1400

 

[timmy]

if you willing to spend the extra dough try the five-seven.
service frame, i think 17+1 mag, and it comes with 3 mags
and a carrying case, some other stuff too.its not a 40 s&w
but the bullets are def just as lethal as 40s&w and the
bullets are cheap compared to 40 s&w, only problem the
gun cost around 1200-1400

Very nice looking firearm, way outside my price range, with the money I save by not paying that price tag I can put that in to the ammo and probably make up the difference

 

[flycbyrd]

Very nice looking firearm, way outside my price range, with the money I save by not paying that price tag I can put that in to the ammo and probably make up the difference

yes its very nice and it was way out of mine too
but you would be surprised some people have no limit
that must be nice....the only other reason i didnt
want it when i got mine is that i got my gun not long
after the guy that was in the military shot all
those people in texas, he used the five-seven 2 of them
i didnt want people thinking i was some freak..

 

[Gravy]

Sig 229!
One of the few designed first for the .40
Only later did it become available in 9mm and .357sig.

 

[Subrage]

I like my subcompact xd40, feels alot better in my hand than the glock's. Glocks grip i found to narrow. But what ever feels the most comfortable in your hand is what you should get.

Ive thought about trading it in though and picking up the xdm, since i really dont carry it.

 

[flycbyrd]

I like my subcompact xd40, feels alot better in my hand than the glock's. Glocks grip i found to narrow. But what ever feels the most comfortable in your hand is what you should get.

Ive thought about trading it in though and picking up the xdm, since i really dont carry it.

i looked at those but he is wanting a full frame or similar, no type of compact

 

[jrhudgins]

I also have a Glock 27, and it verges on being too small, though I have the extension to be able to get one more finger on the grip. Qualified at the police range with it (25yd), but for me it is just for concealment. I stated all that just for reference for the next two mentioned:
I love the feel of the Beretta PX4 Storm, and it shoots like a dream for me. I am more accurate with it than with the one I like most, the Sig P229, but they are both very nice pistols. Get night sights!
But I would kick myself if I didn't go outside your parameters and suggest that you test shoot a 45ACP...

JR

 

[flycbyrd]

I also have a Glock 27, and it verges on being too small, though I have the extension to be able to get one more finger on the grip. Qualified at the police range with it (25yd), but for me it is just for concealment. I stated all that just for reference for the next two mentioned:
I love the feel of the Beretta PX4 Storm, and it shoots like a dream for me. I am more accurate with it than with the one I like most, the Sig P229, but they are both very nice pistols. Get night sights!
But I would kick myself if I didn't go outside your parameters and suggest that you test shoot a 45ACP...

JR

+1 for the glock 27 for concealment +10 for the night sights

 

[Barcochris]

I like the XD with the 4 inch barrel, a trip to springer precision can take care of the long trigger and long reset...

 

[timmy]

i looked at those but he is wanting a full frame or similar, no type of compact

I am going to have to look in to all of these other options. The reason for the full frame at the moment is right now I have no reason for a concealed firearm. I also do not have the licenses to carry a concealed firearm. In the future I do plan to go to the proper classes and acquire the proper licenses for my CCW Permit. I will also have to check out .45ACP as a viable caliber but from what research i have done on my own .40S&W sounds like the way I want to go for now.

 

[flycbyrd]

I am going to have to look in to all of these other options. The reason for the full frame at the moment is right now I have no reason for a concealed firearm. I also do not have the licenses to carry a concealed firearm. In the future I do plan to go to the proper classes and acquire the proper licenses for my CCW Permit. I will also have to check out .45ACP as a viable caliber but from what research i have done on my own .40S&W sounds like the way I want to go for now.

i was i debated on getting the glock 36 or the 27, 36 is a slime line 45;
i went with the 40 s&w for more then one reason. but from my scientific
approach at the ballistics test. the 40 s&w travels faster on average then
the 45; and well the 45 is a bigger bullet. but bigger bullets are not always
better. for instance the hollow point in these guns. hollow points are able to
expand more quickly at higher rates of speed. for ex a 135 grain federal premium jh low recoil shot out of a 40 travels 1190ft/s and has 424 ft/lb of force while the same bullet made for the 45 weighing 165 grains travels 1060ft/s and hits with 412ft/lb of energy. that means on impact the initial hole might be bigger on the 45 but the 40 will have a bigger hole right when it gets through the skin and are less likely to travel all the way through the target into innocent by standers.

the 40 does kick more.

another selling point for the 40 is the 45 will be much heavier fully loaded then a 40 and if you are planning on concealing that is something of importance. i dont conceal yet but that is what i bought mine for.


and to those who think the bigger ones are better, the .25 is a nasty little bugger in hollow points. if you get into a confrontation that requires for and you have jh the bullets travel so slow that they wont break thru bone instead they bounce around inside you and shred you to pieces. 380very similiar but are not as effective as a 40 because they lack penetration capability at moderate ranges, thats where it would be nice to have something you can rely on. the 380 is a good back up side arm to the 40 if you carry two guns though

 

[timmy]

Looks like you studied some of the numbers I have been looking at. I also based my decision on .40 off the ballistic pressure wave created by the bullet traveling through soft tissue. This pressure wave is from my understanding associated with remote wounding effects known as hydrostatic shock. The higher the pressure wave a bullet can create and then dissipate in to the body in a shorter amount of time creates a higher probability of brain damage.

The Ballistic Pressure Wave Theory of Handgun Bullet Incapacitation

 

[Snappy Lunch]

Glock 23 for primary.
Ruger LCR for backup.

 

[wilsondude]

Sig 229!
One of the few designed first for the .40
Only later did it become available in 9mm and .357sig.

An enthusiastic thumbs up to the Sig, in my favorite, in .357 caliber. These guns are shooters, the cadillac of handguns IMO. I also have a Sig p238, another great shooter in .380 caliber, and a very capable carry gun. I have owned several of the glocks mentioned above, and the Kahr's(PM), both in .40 and 9mm. I wouldn't part with either of my Sigs.

 

[Blondie]

I have two .40's. A baby eagle and a glock 23. Used to have a sigma, could never recommend it as it had many misfires. None of them are as accurate as my .357 wheel gun though. Balls dead accurate at 50 yards. And a hand cannon.

 

[timmy]

I have two .40's. A baby eagle and a glock 23. Used to have a sigma, could never recommend it as it had many misfires. None of them are as accurate as my .357 wheel gun though. Balls dead accurate at 50 yards. And a hand cannon.

Hand Cannon like the following one?

 

[flycbyrd]

Looks like you studied some of the numbers I have been looking at. I also based my decision on .40 off the ballistic pressure wave created by the bullet traveling through soft tissue. This pressure wave is from my understanding associated with remote wounding effects known as hydrostatic shock. The higher the pressure wave a bullet can create and then dissipate in to the body in a shorter amount of time creates a higher probability of brain damage.

The Ballistic Pressure Wave Theory of Handgun Bullet Incapacitation

exactly yes hydroshock, it can create brain damage, it can also cause other organs to stop working like collapsed lungs...

 

[flycbyrd]

Hand Cannon like the following one?

i like the baby de too, but they quit making them; I have a Ultralite blued judge, a glock 27, and a very old 32 short centerfire revolver its a brake barrel made by a bicycle company....i have a problem with the yolk screw on my judge right now tho; that is just pistol wise though

 

[jrhudgins]

I want to interject here that, for me, handguns can be enjoyable, fun. Going out to the range and going through several boxes of cartridges in several different guns is both challenging and relaxing. I admit that there can certainly be different characteristics that one would look for in a handgun depending on whether they plan to use it in that way, or strictly for protection.
That is why I mentioned the 45ACP. I am very familiar with 1911s, so that familiarity makes them like an old friend that I can take out and get to perform in a predictable manner. And for that reason I enjoy them most.
If I were to be heading out the door expecting a firefight, I would probably grab the Sig P229 for its higher capacity and certain reliability. But it would be a hard choice since I would just take fewer, more selective shots with the 45.
If I were to go back into Grizzly country at altitude, I would take the 44mag revolver.
And to have fun, shoot all day, and improve your technique, the BuckMark is hard to beat.

 

[soapbox]

I have exactly one .40 S&W handgun, so I can't compare apples to apples. I very much like the Browning Hi-Power I do have, though. It kicks a bit more than I think a .40 should (given the comparatively mild recoil in my .45 ACP), but the Browning is a good 10-round mag performer. Accurate to 25 yards. As with all Hi-powers I've come across, the hammer is a bit tight if you try to **** it with your thumb. It's also a bit slimmer than a Glock.

My two cents.