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Is AOS still tallow?

I don't think it's too surprising that the AOS website lists glycerin and coconut oil (which are, in fact, in the soap) rather than tallow. Only a relatively few of us shave geeks are hell bent for tallow; Joe AOS Customer/Target Customer wants to hear about ingredients he's more familiar with.
 
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I just bought a puck a few days ago. Tallow is the first ingredient, so it's still the original formulation. I think the website is just using marketing techniques to resonate with potential customers.

Not going to sell a product with the line: "Made with the finest beef fat."

Hopefully they won't reformulate it in the future, now that the company is owned by Proctor and Gamble...or so I'm told.

Cheers!

Jim

Yes it will. :cool: Oh, yes it will. At the rate tallow is being removed from creams and soaps, I'll be stocking up for the shaveocalypse soon.
 
I emailed AOS customer service just last week about this and they said that P&G have no "current plans" to change anything. However, all you need is a young hot shot CEO to change things quickly. She emailed me with the ingredients list and they were indeed the same (tallow based). She also confirmed with me that the soap is still being manufactured in Italy by Valobra. I'm sure eventually it will be reformulated sooner or later so my suggestion would be to stock up now if you love it so much. I already have 6 refills. Soap doesn't go bad so you can just keep them until you need them. I have an old spice soap from over 40 years ago and I can't imagine it working better in 1969 than it does now.

Tony
 
Thanks Tony for sharing that information from AOS. I seriously doubt AOS intends to destroy a premium brand. At least not on purpose. You won't see this stuff at Walmart and the crowd that DOES buy it is not likely to be forgiving of a major gaffe in the products.

Regards, Todd
 
I emailed AOS customer service just last week about this and they said that P&G have no "current plans" to change anything. However, all you need is a young hot shot CEO to change things quickly. She emailed me with the ingredients list and they were indeed the same (tallow based). She also confirmed with me that the soap is still being manufactured in Italy by Valobra. I'm sure eventually it will be reformulated sooner or later so my suggestion would be to stock up now if you love it so much. I already have 6 refills. Soap doesn't go bad so you can just keep them until you need them. I have an old spice soap from over 40 years ago and I can't imagine it working better in 1969 than it does now.

Tony

I said it before and I say it again: STOCKPILE tallow shaving soap. The anti tallow conspirators will never rest :thumbup1:
 
The way I see it is like this. Trends of manufacturers are in line with tallow being removed from soaps. If I saw manufacturers removing a certain brand/scent that has tallow and replacing with another scent with tallow, then I would say tallow has a chance to survive. Unfortunately, the trend is going in the direction of no tallow. It won't happen overnight but it is headed in that direction. It will be a sad say when there is no more current stock of tallow soap.

My 2 cents.

Rafi
 
I think there is more to it than being anti-tallow. Any company that trades on Wall Street (such as P&G) only cares about one thing. Profit and revenue. They don't care about the consumers they only care about the shareholders. The fastest way to create profit is to cut cost. I don't think replacing tallow with vegetable oils will save much money, but I do know that finding a soap manufacturer in China vs. Italy (Valobra) would be a major cost-cutting move and maybe just include a reformulation in the process. I think this is inevitable but hopefully I'm wrong. Especially since we who actually know what a tallow-based shaving soap is, are very few in number vs. the mass public who use the same product. I used to work in formulation in Research and Development at a major pharmaceutical company before being a small business owner and all we did was try to make current pharmaceuticals cheaper and faster. Every big company does it. Small companies care about consumers, big companies care about shareholders. My suggestion would be stock up if you like it since soap does not go bad you can use it many years from now.

Tony

P.S. from my experience in pharmaceuticals, stay away from anything that says "Reformulated" or "New and Improved". Those are the kiss of death!
 
Art of Shaving has no plans to eliminate tallow from its' soap.

Tabac has no plans to eliminate tallow from its' soap.

This is good news.
 
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