Comprehensive List of Gem SE Razors

[BSAGuy]

The varieties are almost endless.

 

[MicBP]

what the diff between a jr and a 1912...???

 

[pjgh]

what the diff between a jr and a 1912...???

Not a lot in practice ...

The patent date is the big difference: the 1912 ... well, 1912 (actually, the 1912 patent pertained to the razors that we know as the Damaskeene, but that's another matter), the Jr was patented in 1930.

Aside from the immediate difference of the revised comb (the Jr has a tidier comb, curved at the corners), the shell is much the same and so is the cap. The cap is indeed the same as the straight cap 1912s from 1919, anyway. The tab on the back of the cap of the earlier Jr models was blank, flat, not indented like the 1912.

 

[TobyC]

1911-1912 Gem de Luxe
1912 Gem Damaskeene (the "1912")
1914-1915 (ER) "1914" Marked "American Safety Razor Company New York" Patent Pending
1917-1919 (ER) "1914" Marked "Ever Ready" Patented March 24/14
1918 "Radio" trademark blade - just a point of interest being perhaps "Radio" predated "Ever Ready" on the razors that are marked "Radio"?
1919 Star became a subsiduary of ASR
1919 Gem "1912"
1919 (ER) Front Hinged Cap "Brooklyn New York USA" Patent Applied For (becomes the "1924")
1923 "Ever Ready" trademarked by ASR
1924 "GEM" trademark redesigned by ASR
1925 ER "1914" & "1924" produced hereafter marked "Ever Ready"
1930 Gem "Micromatic" (the Open Comb)
1930 The Improved Ever Ready ("1912") - what we call the Ever Ready "1912" finally coming into common production (see above, regarding "Radio")
1933 ER "E-Bar" - potentially earlier than the Gem offering of the same model? (Last use of "Ever Ready" in the US)
1930s "Star" - supercedes "Ever Ready" in the US (British market continues with "Every Ready") and duplicates "Gem" ("1912") ... perhaps simply becoming the "Junior"
1930s? Gem G-Bar (introduced after the cessation of the Ever Ready trademark in the US)
1940s? Gem "1912 Junior"
1941 Gem (Micromatic) "Clog Pruf"
1947 Gem (Micromatic) "Flying Wing"
1940s? (Late) ER "Streamline" (British - Ever Ready trademark picked up in Britain ... last used in US in 1933)
1950s ER Featherweight (British)
1950s Gem Featherweight/Pushbutton
1960s Gem Contour
1970s Gem Contour II

So, the Gem "1912" is only a 1912 if it's a Damaskeene, 1919 otherwise.
An Ever Ready "1912" is actually a 1930 and Star "1912" were made from 1933.

Ever Ready "1914" is a 1914 if "patent pending", 1917-1919 otherwise.

Ever Ready "1924" is a not a 1924 if "patent applied for" which makes it actually a 1919.

Pivotal years seem to be 1912 (Gem Damaskeene "1912" begins), 1919 (Star brought into ASR, Gem "1912" begins & Ever Ready "1924" comes into pre-patent production), 1923 (Ever Ready brand goes full blown) and 1930 (Ever Ready "1912" begins).
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[MicBP]

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1911-1912 Gem de Luxe
1912 Gem Damaskeene (the "1912")
1914-1915 (ER) "1914" Marked "American Safety Razor Company New York" Patent Pending
1917-1919 (ER) "1914" Marked "Ever Ready" Patented March 24/14
1918 "Radio" trademark blade - just a point of interest being perhaps "Radio" predated "Ever Ready" on the razors that are marked "Radio"?
1919 Star became a subsiduary of ASR
1919 Gem "1912"
1919 (ER) Front Hinged Cap "Brooklyn New York USA" Patent Applied For (becomes the "1924")
1923 "Ever Ready" trademarked by ASR
1924 "GEM" trademark redesigned by ASR
1925 ER "1914" & "1924" produced hereafter marked "Ever Ready"
1930 Gem "Micromatic" (the Open Comb)
1930 The Improved Ever Ready ("1912") - what we call the Ever Ready "1912" finally coming into common production (see above, regarding "Radio")
1933 ER "E-Bar" - potentially earlier than the Gem offering of the same model? (Last use of "Ever Ready" in the US)
1930s "Star" - supercedes "Ever Ready" in the US (British market continues with "Every Ready") and duplicates "Gem" ("1912") ... perhaps simply becoming the "Junior"
1930s? Gem G-Bar (introduced after the cessation of the Ever Ready trademark in the US)
1940s? Gem "1912 Junior"
1941 Gem (Micromatic) "Clog Pruf"
1947 Gem (Micromatic) "Flying Wing"
1940s? (Late) ER "Streamline" (British - Ever Ready trademark picked up in Britain ... last used in US in 1933)
1950s ER Featherweight (British)
1950s Gem Featherweight/Pushbutton
1960s Gem Contour
1970s Gem Contour II

So, the Gem "1912" is only a 1912 if it's a Damaskeene, 1919 otherwise.
An Ever Ready "1912" is actually a 1930 and Star "1912" were made from 1933.

Ever Ready "1914" is a 1914 if "patent pending", 1917-1919 otherwise.

Ever Ready "1924" is a not a 1924 if "patent applied for" which makes it actually a 1919.

Pivotal years seem to be 1912 (Gem Damaskeene "1912" begins), 1919 (Star brought into ASR, Gem "1912" begins & Ever Ready "1924" comes into pre-patent production), 1923 (Ever Ready brand goes full blown) and 1930 (Ever Ready "1912" begins).
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Thx a lot - whats the diff between a jewel and a jr....???

 

[pjgh]

Thx a lot - whats the diff between a jewel and a jr....???

... about £100!

 

[TobyC]

Thx a lot - whats the diff between a jewel and a jr....???

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/137796-gem-jewel-why-jewel

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/135540-Gem-1912-amp-Junior-What-s-the-difference

The term "Gem Jr." appars to have originally been used to distinguish the new 1900/1901 patent date "lather catcher" style Gem Jr. Bar Razor which used the new thin blade with the reinforced back. The "Gem" razors of that period were also of the "lather catcher" style, but used a wedge blade. Both razors were made by The Gem Cutlery Company, soon to have a name change to "American Safety Razor Corp."

Later on, after the 1912 patent model was introduced, ASR started to sell these razors under a variety of names. You will find them as "Gem". "Gem Jr.", Ever-Ready and "Star". On some of the "Gem" branded 1912's you will find the phrase "Use Only with Gem DAMASKEENE Blades". This was simply a marketing pitch for ASR's new blades. All of these razors would, in fact, use "conventional" thin, reinforced back blades, similar to those we use today.

These 1912 patent models were produced with a variety of handle styles and in later years many even had bakelite handles, including the "Parade" model. which had the large "baton" style handle. These "baton" style razors were, again sold under the various names of Gem Jr., Star and Ever-Ready.

ASR also made a similar razor with the "baton" handle which was sold under the "Treet" tradename. This razor had a safety bar rather than the closed comb like the various 1912 models. This Treet razor was otherwise the same as the 1912, but it does not have the 1912 patent date stamped on it like all the others.

I've noted some folks on these forums referring to their razor simply as a "Gem Jr.", however, as can be seen above, the term "Gem Jr." does not identify a specific model of razor; that name having been used on both the 1900/1901 patent Bar Razor and also on 1912 patent models.

Regards,
Tom

 

[pjgh]

Actually, that's a point ... which Junior? The pre-1912 Junior or the post-1930 Junior?

 

[MicBP]

Actually, that's a point ... which Junior? The pre-1912 Junior or the post-1930 Junior?

dont know, it has a gold head and black plastic handle..

 

[spidey9]

When I'm discussing these razors I use the terms "Junior Lather Catcher" or "1912 Junior" so that it is clear which razor is the subject of the discussion.

--Bob

 

[TheVez2]

Gem Featherweight - Two cap variants, one like the G Bar and one much lighter

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but there's also the Featherweight Deluxe.

 

[MicBP]

When I'm discussing these razors I use the terms "Junior Lather Catcher" or "1912 Junior" so that it is clear which razor is the subject of the discussion.

--Bob

well then it would be a 1912 jr

 

[Henrik]

When I'm discussing these razors I use the terms "Junior Lather Catcher" or "1912 Junior" so that it is clear which razor is the subject of the discussion.

--Bob

Yes- I agree to that. When it come to the Jrs we really should narrow the dates it even further as we have variations with the early Jr:s as well.. (1907 vs the slighly younger 1910-1912. Otherwise I think Pjgh pretty nailed them all.

 

[Not A Public FIgure]

Love this thread, i probably have a 1/3 of the variations in my collection across the four brands, with duplicates of maybe 2 or three and it is a lot of razors. I’ll take a pic of the arsenal and post here once the latest acquisitions arrive.

 

[Not A Public FIgure]

Kampfe HR-8A ER 1910 ER Junior Bar GEM Damaskeene 1912 Curved top GEM Damaskeene 1912 Flat top GEM 1912 Curved Top, Alternate Handle GEM/ER 1912 Long Art Deco Handle GEM/ER 1912 Short Art Deco Handle ER Britain 1912 Alloy Handle ER ASR 1914 ER 1924 ER Streamliner Gen2 Flat Back GEM Junior Gold Tone Parade Handle GEM Junior Gold Tone Long Bakelite Handle GEM Micromatic Bullet Tip Guiding Eye Gold tone GEM Micromatic Bullet Tip Guiding Eye Silver tone GEM Micromatic Open Comb GEM G-BarGEM Featherweight Gold tone, ivory handle GEM Featherweight Silver tone, ivory handle GEM Featherweight Silver tone, black handle GEM Push Gold Tone GEM Push Silver Tone GEM Contour GEM Contour 1.5 ‘Flip’ GEM Contour 2 GEM Contour 2 Prism

 

[Ron R]

Kampfe HR-8A ER 1910 ER Junior Bar GEM Damaskeene 1912 Curved top GEM Damaskeene 1912 Flat top GEM 1912 Curved Top, Alternate Handle GEM/ER 1912 Long Art Deco Handle GEM/ER 1912 Short Art Deco Handle ER Britain 1912 Alloy Handle ER ASR 1914 ER 1924 ER Streamliner Gen2 Flat Back GEM Junior Gold Tone Parade Handle GEM Junior Gold Tone Long Bakelite Handle GEM Micromatic Bullet Tip Guiding Eye Gold tone GEM Micromatic Bullet Tip Guiding Eye Silver tone GEM Micromatic Open Comb GEM G-BarGEM Featherweight Gold tone, ivory handle GEM Featherweight Silver tone, ivory handle GEM Featherweight Silver tone, black handle GEM Push Gold Tone GEM Push Silver Tone GEM Contour GEM Contour 1.5 ‘Flip’ GEM Contour 2 GEM Contour 2 Prism
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Very nice complete GEM collection @Not A Public FIgure . Very nice to see it presented that way because it shows the oldest Gems to the latest models in a Time line . Here is a time line chart for those great razors you own and for others to enjoy.

Have some great shaves!

 

[Not A Public FIgure]

Very nice complete GEM collection @Not A Public FIgure . Very nice to see it presented that way because it shows the oldest Gems to the latest models in a Time line . Here is a time line chart for those great razors you own and for others to enjoy.
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Have some great shaves!

This is great! Thank you, New Christmas wishlist