…Razor Emporium incorrectly labeled this and the other one..
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…Razor Emporium incorrectly labeled this and the other one..
Date | 21-Oct-2024 | Blade Thickness, mm | 0.091 | ||
Blade | Filoso | Filoso | Barber Brand | China | 1-Jan-2024 |
Wear on Edge | 0 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 |
Edges Measured | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top |
Measurement Medium | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 |
Dulling Substrate | New | Paper | Paper | Paper | Paper |
Measurements | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 |
Adj. Std. Dev. | 31 | 35 | 36 | 36 | 34 |
Median F (g) | 52 | 78 | 99 | 110 | 103 |
Mean F (g) Top | 47 | 58 | 73 | 72 | 77 |
Mean F (g) Bottom | 79 | 104 | 113 | 120 | 118 |
Mean F (g) | 63 | 81 | 93 | 96 | 97 |
BESS Adj. Factor | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Top | 57 | 71 | 89 | 88 | 93 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Bottom | 96 | 127 | 137 | 146 | 144 |
Median Adj. F (g) | 63 | 95 | 121 | 134 | 126 |
Mean Adj. F (g) | 77 | 99 | 113 | 117 | 118 |
Date | 21-Oct-2024 | Blade Thickness, mm | 0.100 | ||
Blade | Shanghai Cloud | Cloud Super | B2004 Blue Yellow | Cloud | 1-Jan-2024 |
Wear on Edge | 0 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 |
Edges Measured | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top |
Measurement Medium | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 |
Dulling Substrate | New | Paper | Paper | Paper | Paper |
Measurements | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 |
Adj. Std. Dev. | 5 | 8 | 11 | 8 | 11 |
Median F (g) | 55.5 | 49 | 51 | 54 | 58.5 |
Mean F (g) Top | 54 | 51 | 54 | 53 | 56 |
Mean F (g) Bottom | 57 | 48 | 53 | 55 | 60 |
Mean F (g) | 56 | 50 | 53 | 54 | 58 |
BESS Adj. Factor | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Top | 66 | 62 | 66 | 65 | 68 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Bottom | 69 | 59 | 64 | 67 | 73 |
Median Adj. F (g) | 68 | 60 | 62 | 66 | 71 |
Mean Adj. F (g) | 68 | 60 | 65 | 66 | 71 |
At the street price of $10.99/100, this blade has very little to offer. It is a good blade, but not at the price point. If you want to try a Cloud blade, get the awesome sharp Bruce Lee one, or the inexpensive mild red one. If you want to try a moderate blade, you
Ah! I gather from some suppliers (see: AGBL-7019-0000 PAL Extra Keen Blue Single Edge Blade (Fomerly 62-0177 & 62-0163) - https://www.razorbladeco.com/62-0163-extra-keen-blue-single-edge-blade for example) that SKUs 62-0163 & 62-0177 were the same blade, now AGBL-7019-0000.P-62-0177.
Ah yes, "upholstery, industrial." Funny, I think another seller used a different word to describe this blade.Ah! I gather from some suppliers (see: AGBL-7019-0000 PAL Extra Keen Blue Single Edge Blade (Fomerly 62-0177 & 62-0163) - https://www.razorbladeco.com/62-0163-extra-keen-blue-single-edge-blade for example) that SKUs 62-0163 & 62-0177 were the same blade, now AGBL-7019-0000.
Accutec (see: https://accuteccompany.com/s/produc...-edge-blade/01t3i0000089uXRAAY?language=en_US) show former part as 62-0177 and have no reference to 62-0163 on their website, so guess that was a superceded SKU. Shows how long ago I bought mine ... now sitting in my toolbox.
I agree. It is more mild, but it held up better and it is priced under $10/100. The package is more professional, too.The Cloud package of blades in red and white packaging is probably better than this blade.
I am starting to wonder how a modern CNC GEM razor might be.
Date | 22-Oct-2024 | Blade Thickness, mm | 0.101 | ||
Blade | Klasik | Klasik | Platinum Super | South Africa | 1-Jan-2024 |
Wear on Edge | 0 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 |
Edges Measured | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top |
Measurement Medium | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 |
Dulling Substrate | New | Paper | Paper | Paper | Paper |
Measurements | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 |
Adj. Std. Dev. | 5 | 6 | 8 | 8 | 6 |
Median F (g) | 65 | 60 | 60 | 63.5 | 62 |
Mean F (g) Top | 66 | 64 | 65 | 69 | 65 |
Mean F (g) Bottom | 66 | 58 | 55 | 59 | 59 |
Mean F (g) | 66 | 61 | 60 | 64 | 62 |
BESS Adj. Factor | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Top | 81 | 78 | 79 | 84 | 79 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Bottom | 81 | 71 | 67 | 72 | 72 |
Median Adj. F (g) | 79 | 73 | 73 | 77 | 76 |
Mean Adj. F (g) | 81 | 74 | 73 | 78 | 75 |
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I tried the good one today, and can confirm, my subjective experience matches the measurements and the experience of others. It feels very sharp, and more comfortable than most DE blades of similar sharpness. The length of this type of blade seems well suited to a safety razor, though I think a shorter profile like an imjectort blade probably makes more sense. The GEM Junior is great. I wish Gillette had sourced the same clear lacquer for their gold washed razors. I am starting to wonder how a modern CNC GEM razor might be.
Those look nice. I still need to try this one, too:You might like the Micromatic Clog-pruf, @helicopter. It's more modern than the 1912, but it's a solid brass classic TTO from the 1930s era. One of the best shaving GEMs. Very nicely made and reasonably priced, if you shop around.
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Date | 22-Oct-2024 | Blade Thickness, mm | 0.100 | ||
Blade | Shanghai Cloud | Cloud | A77 1.7 6Cr13 | China | 1-Jan-2024 |
Wear on Edge | 0 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 |
Edges Measured | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top |
Measurement Medium | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 |
Dulling Substrate | New | Paper | Paper | Paper | Paper |
Measurements | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 |
Adj. Std. Dev. | 7 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 13 |
Median F (g) | 47 | 46 | 47 | 47.5 | 53 |
Mean F (g) Top | 45 | 46 | 50 | 50 | 61 |
Mean F (g) Bottom | 51 | 46 | 47 | 50 | 50 |
Mean F (g) | 48 | 46 | 49 | 50 | 55 |
BESS Adj. Factor | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Top | 55 | 56 | 61 | 61 | 74 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Bottom | 62 | 56 | 57 | 61 | 61 |
Median Adj. F (g) | 57 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 65 |
Mean Adj. F (g) | 59 | 56 | 59 | 61 | 68 |
Date | 23-Oct-2024 | Blade Thickness, mm | 0.100 | ||
Blade | Edgewell | Wilkinson Sword | Double Edge Box | Germany | 11-Dec-2023 |
Wear on Edge | 0 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 |
Edges Measured | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top |
Measurement Medium | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 |
Dulling Substrate | New | Paper | Paper | Paper | Paper |
Measurements | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 |
Adj. Std. Dev. | 9 | 5 | 8 | 8 | 4 |
Median F (g) | 50.5 | 44 | 44 | 47 | 48 |
Mean F (g) Top | 46 | 45 | 45 | 49 | 48 |
Mean F (g) Bottom | 55 | 43 | 45 | 46 | 47 |
Mean F (g) | 50 | 44 | 45 | 47 | 47 |
BESS Adj. Factor | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Top | 56 | 54 | 55 | 60 | 58 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Bottom | 67 | 52 | 55 | 56 | 57 |
Median Adj. F (g) | 62 | 53 | 54 | 57 | 59 |
Mean Adj. F (g) | 61 | 53 | 55 | 58 | 58 |
Thanks for testing!@BigAlVista sent me this German Edgewell Wilkinson Sword blade to test. I think this one is for European markets because it seems like the American market ones are usually marked as "Classic" to contrast with the Schick brand they use in the American market for modern cartridges. This is the one that comes in a box of 20 normal sized tucks of five blades each, versus the larger tucks of 5 or 10 that are sold in blister hangers.
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This one is from December 11, 2023, so it is the newest one I have tested.
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I think there may have been some question about the authenticity of this blade at some point. I am certain this is a genuine Edgewell blade. It looks just like the other ones.
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There is a small amount of fine chipping after the test. Visually, these blades hold up so well.
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This one had a bit more coating impact than we normally see, but I doubt it is made to a different specification. If they were going to change something, it probably would be the coating, though.
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Sharpness is very close to some of the others, and it is quite sharp overall.
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Even on the big chart, it is clustered with three other blades of the same specification. It is safe to say that while some have been sharper and some more mild, this one is a good representation of the blade specification.
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Date 23-Oct-2024
Blade Thickness, mm 0.100 Blade Edgewell Wilkinson Sword Double Edge Box Germany 11-Dec-2023 Wear on Edge 0 3 6 9 12 Edges Measured Bottom / Top Bottom / Top Bottom / Top Bottom / Top Bottom / Top Measurement Medium Stren 6 .22 Stren 6 .22 Stren 6 .22 Stren 6 .22 Stren 6 .22 Dulling Substrate New Paper Paper Paper Paper Measurements 20 20 20 20 20 Adj. Std. Dev. 9 5 8 8 4 Median F (g) 50.5 44 44 47 48 Mean F (g) Top 46 45 45 49 48 Mean F (g) Bottom 55 43 45 46 47 Mean F (g) 50 44 45 47 47 BESS Adj. Factor 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 Avg. Adj. F (g) Top 56 54 55 60 58 Avg. Adj. F (g) Bottom 67 52 55 56 57 Median Adj. F (g) 62 53 54 57 59 Mean Adj. F (g) 61 53 55 58 58
Blade Sharpness Test Index
Day of the year. This one is 23 345.On the small chart, what do the last three digits represent on some of the wilkies? Like 345, 278 and 296? I guess I'm not sure which 2023 blade I'm looking at.
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Oh my, so simple. Fortunately I have a 100ct box of that same date.Day of the year. This one is 23 345.
Date | 23-Oct-2024 | Blade Thickness, mm | 0.091 | ||
Blade | Jiangxi Xirui | Rhinoceros XR | A77 1.0 Red | China | 1-Jan-2024 |
Wear on Edge | 0 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 |
Edges Measured | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top | Bottom / Top |
Measurement Medium | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 | Stren 6 .22 |
Dulling Substrate | New | Paper | Paper | Paper | Paper |
Measurements | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 |
Adj. Std. Dev. | 6 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 6 |
Median F (g) | 45.5 | 41 | 44 | 45 | 48 |
Mean F (g) Top | 44 | 42 | 46 | 47 | 48 |
Mean F (g) Bottom | 50 | 40 | 42 | 43 | 46 |
Mean F (g) | 47 | 41 | 44 | 45 | 47 |
BESS Adj. Factor | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 | 1.22 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Top | 54 | 51 | 56 | 58 | 58 |
Avg. Adj. F (g) Bottom | 61 | 49 | 52 | 52 | 56 |
Median Adj. F (g) | 56 | 50 | 54 | 55 | 59 |
Mean Adj. F (g) | 57 | 50 | 54 | 55 | 57 |
I'm glad you found the Gem Personna SS PTFE blade to test.This is the real coated stainless Personna GEM-62-1078 blade. As you guys have been saying, it is excellent. It is sharp, durable, and consistent, like it is supposed to be. While I have only tried the other one, I have no doubt this one should shave well.
It is stamped "STAINLESS" but Razor Emporium incorrectly labeled this and the other one.
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Looks great. This one is a shaver for sure. It is ground with fine and consistent high-quality abrasives, it has a straight polished edge, and it has visible metallic and PTFE coatings. The bevel of this one is much more reflective than the other, not that we would doubt the "STAINLESS" stamp on the spine.
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After the test, there is a tiny bit of very fine chipping at the apex. This blade is still ready to shave, but I am putting it in the library and I will try a fresh one.
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The chart really illustrates how these two Personna GEM blades compare:
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A typical J-shaped curve for a platinum metallic coating.
Date 21-Oct-2024
Blade Thickness, mm 0.233 Blade American SRC Personna GEM-62-1078 United States 1-Jan-2024 Wear on Edge 0 3 6 9 12 Edges Measured Bottom Bottom Bottom Bottom Bottom Measurement Medium Stretch 6 .22 Stretch 6 .22 Stretch 6 .22 Stretch 6 .22 Stretch 6 .22 Dulling Substrate New Paper Paper Paper Paper Measurements 15 15 15 15 15 Adj. Std. Dev. 5 5 5 4 7 Median F (g) 48 41 41 41 43 Mean F (g) 46 41 42 42 44 BESS Adj. Factor 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 1.22 Median Adj. F (g) 59 50 50 50 52 Mean Adj. F (g) 56 50 51 51 53
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As everyone has been saying, this is a great blade. I am not sure if any other GEM blade is actually worth considering as long as this is available, but I am going to test at least one more.
Blade Sharpness Test Index