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3 Naniwas, Escher, & DMT Help me decide

I use:

400 Naniwa Super Stone (Only if I have to remove big chips)
1K Naniwa Super Stone
Coticule with slurry
5K Naniwa Super Stone
Coticule without slurry, just water
Chinese 12K
 
Exactly why I love the DMT 1200 for setting bevels. While I have other hones which could fill the role, invariably I grab the DMT.

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The hone gets even better the more you use it and break it in. It feels pretty rough at first but I can't remember what thread someone recommended laying it on finished cement like the kind in your garage, NOT sidewalk, and just slide it back and forth a few seconds. Helped a lot.
 
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The hone gets even better the more you use it and break it in. It feels pretty rough at first but I can't remember what thread someone recommended laying it on finished cement like the kind in your garage, NOT sidewalk, and just slide it back and forth a few seconds. Helped a lot.


How are some other ways to help break in a DMT? (I don't have a garage.lol)
 
How are some other ways to help break in a DMT? (I don't have a garage.lol)

:lol::lol:

Wow, you got me? Take a walk to the first house you see and ask if you can use their garage for a quick second and have you razor in one hand and your DMT in the other:ohmy:
 
Could you explain your reason?

hmm, well versatile means wider range of functionality. you can use the naniwa with or without slurry and it cuts differently, you can also use it with magnetic blades without having to demagnetize them first, on a dmt that can be rather challenging.
if i'm buying a new one though i'd get the chosera. i tried lynn's once and i quite liked it. the most noticeable difference was that the feedback is firmer, bit not dmt-firm. and honing one-two razors is not enough for me to make more meaningful comparison anyways.
 
What problem have you encountered with magnetic blades?


Walker- To break in my F/EF duosharp back in the day, I polished the face of a steel hammer (for peening) on the F side then the EF side. I didn't break in my XC because I used it for lapping stones and figured that would be plenty of a break in. And my EE came with a card from the factory saying something to the effect of: "Diamond Plate Hones will improve and provide a smoother edge after a short break in period, to facilitate this we have performed this break in at the factory."

I don't recall the exact wording, but that was the jist of it. I went straight to razors on it, and it seemed to break in a little more after the first couple, but it didn't cause any problems on those, they just came off a little bit rougher than the ones I'm doing these days.
 
hmm, well versatile means wider range of functionality. you can use the naniwa with or without slurry and it cuts differently, you can also use it with magnetic blades without having to demagnetize them first, on a dmt that can be rather challenging.
if i'm buying a new one though i'd get the chosera. i tried lynn's once and i quite liked it. the most noticeable difference was that the feedback is firmer, bit not dmt-firm. and honing one-two razors is not enough for me to make more meaningful comparison anyways.

Ah, okay. Sorry, I should have clarified that I was wondering why you consider the Naniwa 1000 more versatile than the DMT D8E (or any other DMT extra-fine for that matter), not what versatile meant.

As far as magnetized blades, I'm not sure that there are any blades with a strong enough magnetic field for that to matter. I mean, if it did, you could just lighten your stroke. But if you're just setting a bevel, I don't think such a level of precision in stroke pressure matters *that* much. And if it did, we'd all probably be using de-ionized water by now. :lol:

I'm interested in hearing more about slurry versus no slurry on the Naniwa 1000, though.
 
oh, the attraction is plenty strong and it makes a difference to me. but as i said i don't have much honing experience and don't expect to get dramatically more in the future either, so for me that functionality is likely never going to change.

as far as slurry goes it's just what you'd expect, faster cutting, rougher polish, and duller edge, compared to honing with water. plenty of people have these already, so you can probably find somebody nearby to let you try it and see.
 
:lol::lol:

Wow, you got me? Take a walk to the first house you see and ask if you can use their garage for a quick second and have you razor in one hand and your DMT in the other:ohmy:

I'll have to try this.lol

What problem have you encountered with magnetic blades?


Walker- To break in my F/EF duosharp back in the day, I polished the face of a steel hammer (for peening) on the F side then the EF side. I didn't break in my XC because I used it for lapping stones and figured that would be plenty of a break in. And my EE came with a card from the factory saying something to the effect of: "Diamond Plate Hones will improve and provide a smoother edge after a short break in period, to facilitate this we have performed this break in at the factory."

I don't recall the exact wording, but that was the jist of it. I went straight to razors on it, and it seemed to break in a little more after the first couple, but it didn't cause any problems on those, they just came off a little bit rougher than the ones I'm doing these days.

Thank You Ian. Very Helpful!!
 
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