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RazoRock Merkur 34c HD clone in 316L incoming

If you want to get it cheaper, then just wait a little longer when a lot of people buy one and then camp the BST section and get one for $50-$60 or less shipped. That's probably what I'm going to do, since I kinda want to try one with some of the more efficient plates, but on other hand I don't have such high hopes that this razor is going to put my top razors in shame. I suppose anything is possible, so who knows?
 

Marco

B&B's Man in Italy
Has this new upcoming GOAT already been classified for its agressiveness in the RazoRock razor scale?

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Marco

B&B's Man in Italy
I figured logically it would have to be below 25; German 37 Slant in the Medium category.
Already having a GC.84P, I may just opt for the .74 plate at year's end; though that may be redundant as it's seemingly tied with the MJ-90
According to the scale this GOAT is slightly milder than the GC84-P, but still Medium. Definitely not a mild razor.
 

Jay21

Collecting wife bonus parts
I don’t agree with the assessment that their price is set to recoup development costs. Otherwise, all their razors would have a similar higher cost. They copied an existing design, which should keep design costs lower than making a new design from scratch. They priced it accordingly to gain a specific market position based on people’s willingness to pay for it. People will pay for it, so good for them. I will be sitting this one out because at that price, it better not have a “tool”’ finish.
 
I don’t agree with the assessment that their price is set to recoup development costs. Otherwise, all their razors would have a similar higher cost. They copied an existing design, which should keep design costs lower than making a new design from scratch. They priced it accordingly to gain a specific market position based on people’s willingness to pay for it. People will pay for it, so good for them. I will be sitting this one out because at that price, it better not have a “tool”’ finish.
Couldn't tell you, Just going with what seemed rational in my mind.
Never really been an early adopter so I can't recall whether their previous heads came in higher and reduced over time; but Fendrihan's SS MkII has been out for years and is closer aligned in pricing to the 34c...
 
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I don’t agree with the assessment that their price is set to recoup development costs. Otherwise, all their razors would have a similar higher cost. They copied an existing design, which should keep design costs lower than making a new design from scratch. They priced it accordingly to gain a specific market position based on people’s willingness to pay for it. People will pay for it, so good for them. I will be sitting this one out because at that price, it better not have a “tool”’ finish.
As far as I know, one of the things reflected in the price of a CNC razor is how much material needs to be removed from billet steel to achieve the desired shape (more means more tool wear and processing time), and the GOAT's shape looks like it requires somewhat more complicated CNC programming than e.g. a Game Changer, which has more straight lines.
Additionally, development costs aren't constant and they won't be equal for all razors. That they're using a pre-existing design as inspiration doesn't mean no development costs.

I can't say whether they are trying to squeeze the market for a bit more money, but it actually cheaper than the special edition of the 34C (see e.g. Safety Razor 34C - 650 Years of Solingen - MERKUR Razors - https://merkur-razors.com/produkt/merkur-34c-650-years/?lang=en).

Having said that, it looks like you've made up your mind about it already, so a debate about it is mostly academic.
 
Couldn't tell you, Just going with what seemed rational in my mind.
Never really been an early adopter so I can't recall whether their previous heads came in higher and reduced over time; but Fendrihan's SS MkII has been out a year and is closer aligned in pricing to the 34c...
I haven't tried a 34c, only a 33c, and the Fendrihan MKII head, which I bought shortly after they first released it, is a rougher shaver than the 33c, even at the most shallow angle I coult manage.
To me, that makes it an alternative due to its price, but not shaving characteristics.
 
Couldn't tell you, Just going with what seemed rational in my mind.
Never really been an early adopter so I can't recall whether their previous heads came in higher and reduced over time; but Fendrihan's SS MkII has been out a year and is closer aligned in pricing to the 34c...
Just my opinion, but you can't compare a cast razor to a cnc razor. Totally different build process and different final product in terms of tolerance and quality.
 
As far as I know, one of the things reflected in the price of a CNC razor is how much material needs to be removed from billet steel to achieve the desired shape (more means more tool wear and processing time), and the GOAT's shape looks like it requires somewhat more complicated CNC programming than e.g. a Game Changer, which has more straight lines.
Additionally, development costs aren't constant and they won't be equal for all razors. That they're using a pre-existing design as inspiration doesn't mean no development costs.

I can't say whether they are trying to squeeze the market for a bit more money, but it actually cheaper than the special edition of the 34C (see e.g. Safety Razor 34C - 650 Years of Solingen - MERKUR Razors - https://merkur-razors.com/produkt/merkur-34c-650-years/?lang=en).

Having said that, it looks like you've made up your mind about it already, so a debate about it is mostly academic.
Given the choice - I would definitely take the SS version, though I have absolutely no qualms with the Zamak's that I own.
What chaps me a bit, is charging that price for a limited release with the gaudy End Cap marking and it still being a Zamak cap

Just my opinion, but you can't compare a cast razor to a cnc razor. Totally different build process and different final product in terms of tolerance and quality.
I am in agreement. I did not take into further research that the MkII was cast and would make for contributing to the lack of smoothness that @Slapo stated.
 
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I just ordered one a while ago been wanting one of these for years a 3 piece 34c in stainless hopefully i can get my weber handle back home and test it as well
 

brucered

System Generated
Between 17-19 is way too much for me. My beloved GC68-P is only 6 and I do love mild razors. Thank you for the info, Sir.
I'm a 1 on the scale. :blush:

I'm one of the few on B&B who fell in love with original Mamba (53) and gets perfect 2 pass shaves every time. I rarely use anything else and when I do, it's only for a couple shaves.

I'll be out on this one. Sounds way too aggressive for my tastes too. It's not that I can't use a more aggressive razor, it's that I don't need to in order to get a great shave.
 
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I am in agreement. I did not take into further research that the MkII was cast and would make for contributing to the lack of smoothness that @Slapo stated.
I don't think the issue was with is being cast as much as the changes they'd made compared to Merkur heads.
For example - the top cap on Merkur heads in the 33c/34c style curve past the blade clamping point toward the blade edge (if slightly), whereas Fendrihan's doesn't. That allows for the blade to flex a bit more in the Fendrihan head. I think it also has a bit more blade exposure than the Merkur heads, which makes it easier to notice the extra flex.
It isn't a bad razor, it just could have been better.
 
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