RazoRock Superslant views, reviews, and shaves

[JAHE]

May I join you fine folks...?

Back in February, I had borrowed this shaver for a week from a work colleague and was thrilled with the shave the SuperSlant offered.
My colleague, however, not.

Said SuperSlant L3 SB has now changed hands due to a trade.

It didn't come as a surprise to me but today's shave with the L3 SuperSlant was just as nice as I expected (and remembered) it to be.

Effortless BBS.

 

[MondoJ]

I like the L1++ a lot. The L3, not so much.

Happy shaves,

Jim

What other razors do you have that might be similar to the L1++ trying to decide I dont think the L3 is for me

 

[Chan Eil Whiskers]

What other razors do you have that might be similar to the L1++ trying to decide I dont think the L3 is for me

I've not used the slants much recently, but will use them a good bit during the next month because it is now





One of my projects for the month is to better learn a few razors including the SuperSlant. I'll try to post my observations and comparisons in the Slantember thread. Even better, others will, too, so I will learn from them assuming I'm open to it.

Happy shaves,

Jim

 

[JacobW]

 

[Chan Eil Whiskers]

I have the L3, and the L1++, and, most recently, the L1+ which is my favorite of the three. Very good razor, a Daily Driver candidate.

Happy shaves,

Jim

 

[Tanuki]

SOTD, my first choice RR SS: L2++ OC

 

[JAHE]

So I did end up buying a RR German 37 slant, and I like it. For those that know, what SSlant plate(s) would be similar?

That's a question I have raised as well some time ago. In the meantime I got a L3SB which provides a very efficient and gentle enough shave on my face. Really enjoyable.

If you get along well with the G37 it will be the case with the L3SB, too.

But...

I haven't done a side by side shave with both razors but I have the strong feeling that the G37 feels a bit easier on the skin (slightly less blade feel with the G37). And the L3SB feels a tad more efficient, too. Not by much, but a bit.

If was forced to choose a SuperSlant base plate in order to replicate the G37 shaving experience I'd likely go with L2+SB or L2++ SB.

Perhaps @sakaltras has followed up with investigating the topic, since he raised a similar question on the Merkur 37c.

Or perhaps @Phoenixkh might do a side by side shave with his SuperSlant L2++SB and the Merkur 37c... Take one for the team, Kim. Go slanted!

Cheers!

 

[Phoenixkh]

That's a question I have raised as well some time ago. In the meantime I got a L3SB which provides a very efficient and gentle enough shave on my face. Really enjoyable.

If you get along well with the G37 it will be the case with the L3SB, too.

But...

I haven't done a side by side shave with both razors but I have the strong feeling that the G37 feels a bit easier on the skin (slightly less blade feel with the G37). And the L3SB feels a tad more efficient, too. Not by much, but a bit.

If was forced to choose a SuperSlant base plate in order to replicate the G37 shaving experience I'd likely go with L2+SB or L2++ SB.

Perhaps @sakaltras has followed up with investigating the topic, since he raised a similar question on the Merkur 37c.

Or perhaps @Phoenixkh might do a side by side shave with his SuperSlant L2++SB and the Merkur 37c... Take one for the team, Kim. Go slanted!

Cheers!

Jahe, the month is winding down.... that's the last slant I own that I haven't used this month... I'm pretty sure, based on using both, but the 37C this month... and the SuperSlant L2++ several months ago before I set it aside for a while, the 37C is just a half step down or two from my top razors. I get 10 hour shaves with it..... The SuperSlant and I didn't seem to get along. I still can't figure out why I wasn't able to get my trouble spots whisker free. I had the same issue with the L3 but I sold that one.

I will take one for the team, though. I'll use it for my next shave after tonight's shave with the ATT X1. <eg>

 

[JAHE]

Jahe, the month is winding down.... that's the last slant I own that I haven't used this month... I'm pretty sure, based on using both, but the 37C this month... and the SuperSlant L2++ several months ago before I set it aside for a while, the 37C is just a half step down or two from my top razors. I get 10 hour shaves with it..... The SuperSlant and I didn't seem to get along. I still can't figure out why I wasn't able to get my trouble spots whisker free. I had the same issue with the L3 but I sold that one.

I will take one for the team, though. I'll use it for my next shave after tonight's shave with the ATT X1. <eg>

Thanks Kim,
the team appreciates it.

We are genuinly interested in the level of blade feel whilst shaving. I guess, the level of longevity of the shaving results with both razors is more or less the same.

Perhaps even consider a side by side shave with the 37C and the L2++SB. I guess this approach might make the differences even more noticeable.

Anyway , thank you for your efforts.

Have a nice Sunday!

 

[JAHE]

Ok, so I freshed up my memory and did a side by side shave with the L3 SB and the German 37, attached were two RR Barberpole handles.

I loaded two fresh PermaSharp blades and did two passes plus touchups on both sides on my face.

Overall, both shavers provided a fine and comfortable shave. The blade feel on the SuperSlant felt a bit more pronounced, but not menacing by any means. As far as efficiency is in question I'd say it's almost a tie, but still the SuperSlant won this category by a hair. I needed some extra touchups on the face side which I shaved with the G37, but this might be caused by my swirly growth pattern alone. So, in terms of efficiency it's not been a day and night experience with these two razors. There's a difference related to the shaving angle. Without thinking twice I chose a rather steep angle with the SuperSlant and a more neutral one with the G37.

So according to this shave it is pretty safe to say the "equivalent" of the G37 likely will be found in one of the L2SB baseplates.

The question still pending to be answered is: which plate is the one?!

Cheers!

 

[JAHE]

Gents
I'm pretty sure the question has been answered, but still...

Am I right to assume that the core difference of the base plates of one given level (say Level 2 plates) is not the efficiency but the blade feel of the base plates? So is it correct to state L2SB and L2++SB would share the same level of efficiency, but the L2++SB offered more bladefeel?

Paging the experts @Tanuki and @Old Hippie. Thanks!

 

[Old Hippie]

Gents
I'm pretty sure the question has been answered, but still...

Not sure it has!

Am I right to assume that the core difference of the base plates of one given level (say Level 2 plates) is not the efficiency but the blade feel of the base plates? So is it correct to state L2SB and L2++SB would share the same level of efficiency, but the L2++SB offered more bladefeel?

I think @Phoenixkh had some insight to offer. (If I'm mis-remembering who, my apologies.)

I'm not sure how you categorize (or quantify) "efficiency." We can set that aside, I think, for now. What I think I understand is that the plates are "stepped" or the bar/comb relieved to increase the gap of the razor. Since it uses a common cap I wouldn't expect that any of the baseplates would vary much from what would fit the cap, so increasing gap by cutting away a bit of the bar/comb area seems like the only option. In other words, I believe it would have the same blade reveal and exposure because of that common cap.

All the variables in this case are dependent. Interlinked, you might say. Opening up the gap would increase bladefeel, which may also affect "efficiency." Seems to me there's a bit more going on. I find the L2OC and the L3SB to be very nearly the same razor, aside from the bar/comb. Which was exactly what I wanted to find when I went to the OC plate, so I'm a happy shaver.

O.H.

 

[Beefdrippings]

From the site:

The "+" plates have a milled chamfer on the guard that creates extra aggression

The "++" plates have a milled step on the guard that creates a little more aggression from the "+"

 

[JAHE]

Thank you for your explanation.

I'm not sure how you categorize (or quantify) "efficiency." We can set that aside, I think, for now.

You have a fair point here. I should have been more precise in my wording.

"Efficiency" has two aspects in the way I'm using this term.
First aspect: "efficiency whilst shaving", means how many passes / strokes do I need to get the shave done. I'm always striving for a close shave result (near BBS) and I always do an atg pass to get there.

My question had to be seen in this context, but I admittedly didn't make my point clear.

Then there's aspect # 2, which is less important for me: it's the efficiency in terms of longevity of a shave result once the shave is completed. Some sort of "post shave efficiency" if you will.

As stated, most of the time it's not crucial for me if my shave result lasts 10 or 15 hours before I can detect a significant amount of re-growth. I'll shave 5 times a week anyway (or even more if necessary).

What I think I understand is that the plates are "stepped" or the bar/comb relieved to increase the gap of the razor. Since it uses a common cap I wouldn't expect that any of the baseplates would vary much from what would fit the cap, so increasing gap by cutting away a bit of the bar/comb area seems like the only option. In other words, I believe it would have the same blade reveal and exposure because of that common cap.

All the variables in this case are dependent. Interlinked, you might say. Opening up the gap would increase bladefeel, which may also affect "efficiency." Seems to me there's a bit more going on.

I see. Your explanation makes sense to me

What I was wondering about was if the "efficiency during the shave" with, say, L2SB and L2SB++ was more or less the same, but the blade feel would be the core difference between the plates.
But I guess, you are correct. The impact of the milled chamfer (+) and the milled step (++) likely is way more complex (thanks for highlighting this detail @Beefdrippings).

I find the L2OC and the L3SB to be very nearly the same razor, aside from the bar/comb. Which was exactly what I wanted to find when I went to the OC plate, so I'm a happy shaver.

O.H.

Same here, both the L3SB as the G37 provide great shaves for me. If only the G37 head was made of stainless steel

Thanks again for your input @Old Hippie and @Beefdrippings!

 

[Phoenixkh]

Phase one complete. I shaved with the SuperSlant L2++. Blade feel compared to the 37C? I'm not a seasoned shaver like so many of you. And I have 70 year old skin. I'm going to try to make sense here, but you'll have to bear with me. I can feel the blade cutting in a more pronounced way than the 37C. The 37C is noticeably less efficient. I could feel and hear the SuperSlant cutting my old man whiskers. I'll use the 37C next but I'm pretty sure I'll confirm what I already think, though I will be open minded about it. The 37C is very smooth... It's mild. I don't know what other word to use here. For me, the 37C and the ATT S1 are very close in the way they shave. The L2++ and the ATT S2 would have more in common, though at this point, the L2++ is more smooth than the S2. This might be pilot error because I've only used the ATT S2 once.

So to back track a bit. I tried both the RR L3 and the L2++ and didn't have much luck with either of them. I couldn't get my trouble spots clear and smooth. I tried to sell them both with what I thought was very attractive pricing but only the L3 sold. The L2++ has been sitting in one of those thin, clear plastic tackle boxes with dividers for months. The shave today changed my mind about the L2++. Since I dedicated this month to slant razors (I did shave once with my Athena... I couldn't resist), I think I learned a few things... Well, maybe only one. Don't take this for more than it's worth. Somewhere along the line, more than one person told me to just shave... Don't worry about changing anything due to the slant. And starting this month, that's what I did. I didn't try to figure out what angle the blade was to the whiskers, etc. I was going to map everything out but decided, that was too much work. That's why I just shaved with the slant razors this month like I would any other DE or AC razor. The results were far better than I expected.

Now to the question so many of us (including @JAHE , who asked me to do this test) have been asking: What base plate is right for each of us. I don't really know. LOL... what I think I know is...The shave today with the L2++ will turn out to be a 12 hour shave where the 37C lasts 10 hours for me. I'll make sure to report back after I use my 37C in a couple days.

I still don't know if the + and ++ make a huge difference. In other words, would the L2 end up being just as efficient? I know it's not supposed to but I have only used the 3 and 2++ as I've mentioned. Based on what a few of you have said, the L3 is probably more than I need. Since I don't seem to need anything more efficient than the 2++, would I need one of the OC offerings? Would an L1 OC end up with the same efficiency of the L2+++? or +? There are almost too many choices. Try them all won't work for me..... My shaving fund is building slowly but won't include the funds for more SuperSlant base plates, I don't think. I do know... the RR SuperSlant L2++ isn't going back into that tackle box. I did use it with one of my Timeless Ti Crown handles and I had the ATT Windsor SSRH head on it... That one is in the tackle box for now. <eg>

 

[JAHE]

Thank you Kim @Phoenixkh for sharing your impressions on today's shave. Indeed, a very interesting read.
I guess, the G37/37C twin might then rather be found in the ballpark of L2SB or L2+SB. At least that's my impression after reading your comments.

Again, thank you for your efforts!
Cheers!

 

[Old Hippie]

First aspect: "efficiency whilst shaving", means how many passes / strokes do I need to get the shave done. I'm always striving for a close shave result (near BBS) and I always do an atg pass to get there.

Aha! Thank you. That's a concept I can understand.

I find the L3SB and the L2OC pretty close in that regard. I am getting done a bit faster with the OC, which may also be due to being more comfortable with the razor now than right at first. With either one I get great shaves doing basically two passes WTG/ATG and then going back for those spots I've missed or not gotten completely. I have a couple of areas on my head where I often have to go back and do another ATG pass with some mild stretching to really do the job right. Sometimes I bother, sometimes not. The Nivea smooths things out pretty well.

Good enough for a retired guy who is, at this moment, sitting by a nice forested river on a crisp fall day thinking about making lunch and then packing up and heading back home.

O.H.

 

[Phoenixkh]

I did get that back to back experiment with the SuperSlant L2++ and the Merkur 37C. It wasn't exactly fair since I'm not a daily shaver but we have a thing tomorrow that caused me to shave an hour or so ago.

Blade feel.... I could feel the Perma-Sharp as much or perhaps even more in the 37C than the SuperSlant. What I don't know and don't have any idea how to test: Was this due to shaving two days in a row? I know my skin hadn't recovered from yesterday's shave completely... based on the Alum feedback today vs. yesterday. I barely had any sting from the alum yesterday but today, well, that is another story. It's calmed down a bit after the Neutrogena Hydro Boost did it's thing, thankfully.

So did I add anything to this thread's efforts to determine what SuperSlant base plate will be the best match for others, based on how other razors perform? I'm not sure. But I'm so glad I @JAHE asked me to try the SuperSlant again. It was a pleasure to become reacquainted with it. I really think my month using various slant razors helped me develop better technique or at least, stop trying to outsmart them and let them guide me; teach me how to use them.

 

[JAHE]

@Old Hippie
Thank you for your feedback!
I hope you had a safe return home

@Phoenixkh
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your impressions with us and for taking the trouble to collect them. I really appreciate that, Kim!

I'm pretty impressed that you're starting to like ypur slant razors!
That's great!

 

[Phoenixkh]

My neck and the bottom of my chin had some whisker feel when I got up this morning. That was 10 hours after the shave and what I expected. I still think I would have had a better shave if my face hadn’t been shaved so close with the SuperSlant L2++. I might consider buying an additional, more mild base plate but…….which one? I’m still lost there.