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Noob Lessons for the Noob

Hi everyone. Been DE shaving for over a month now, and this forum and related videos have been an amazing way to learn about product and technique that just wouldn't have been possible before the Interwebs.

That said, there is a lot of really good advice out there, but as a Noobie, I really wanted absolutes. People ask questions and want black and white answers even though the only real answer is a shade of grey. So, I decided to compile some advice for the day 1 beginner from some of the lessons I have learned, sort of a set of guidelines to follow until they are more comfortable figuring things out on their own.

I'm sure some people may take issue with this sort of guideline, especially from someone so new, but I really think it's a useful start for someone with limited experience. If you agree, please add your "rules", and try to keep them as black and white as possible. Thanks.

Here goes:

What to buy:
I think the best thing to do is take the plunge. If you're really serious, invest in a decent DE razor (expect to spend between $25-50). Don't look at anything expensive or really cheap. A mid-range Merkur or Parker is all you need to start. If you quit DE shaving after a few months, you haven't wasted much money and can easily sell a decent razor. If you find you love DE shaving, as so many of us do, then you can invest in an upgrade if you really want to.

Same rule applies to the brush and soap. Don't go nuts, pure badger is excellent, and you don't need to spend $50+ on a brush, but don't be surprised if it costs almost as much as the razor. Cheap brushes may fall apart quickly but can cost under $10. If you get a month out of a $7 brush, you're still ahead of the game.

As far as shaving soap or crème, look at the reviews and jump in. Don't cheap out on the soap because this is what protects your face from the blade.

After these three core items, the rest is up to you. I spent a total of $150, including a nice stand and a pack of 35 sample blades from 7 different companies for $21 ($0.60 per blade. To buy that many cartridges would cost at least $100). I think that's a great idea too, buy low-quantity from several manufacturers. Yes, this can make the entry fee steep. If you can't afford this, scale back a little. Skimp on the brush. Buy fewer blades. Buy a refill soap and use you own bowl or mug. Buy a less expensive razor as a last resort.

First shave:
The first shave can be a harrowing experience. Putting a razor blade against your throat can be scary. Take it slow, watch the videos, and stick to 1-2 passes, max. You're not going for a BBSS (Baby-Butt Smooth Shave) first time out of the gate, you're learning technique and trying not to cut yourself much. Focus on the angle, your wrist staying stiff, and listen to the sounds the blade makes as it glides over your skin. That sound will help you nail the angle.

Subsequent shaves:
I have found that DE shaving has two learning curves. The first is to not fear the blade and start shaving correctly. The second is once you start to get comfortable, you may do what I did and get cocky. I started using pressure, which is unnecessary. All it does is result in cuts, not cleaner shaves. I had to pull back and re-learn proper technique.

Also, learn how to pull your skin gently to smooth it out - your face is curved and rounded, the razor is angular. You need to gently smooth out the curves.

The other thing I have learned is that even once I'm done with multiple passes, I can still feel stubble. I've gone back and worked on it, but it's not worth the blood. After you wash your face with warm and then cold water, use a little shave balm or after-shave, and a moisturizer, your skin will dry out from the shave and your whiskers will seem to almost recede into your skin. What felt slightly rough, becomes nice and smooth.

Changing blades:
Blades are super sharp and super thin. Subsequently they will dull super fast. This doesn't mean they will stop cutting, it means they won't cut as effectively. The problem is that as a beginner, we don't know the difference between a dull blade and bad technique. I have found that most of my blades make it 2-4 shaves before they start to perform differently. Therefore I recommend in the beginning, change the blade every 3 shaves, no matter what. In addition to dulling, blades get soap buildup, water minerals deposit on them (especially if you have hard water) which makes them microscopically coarse, and worst of all, little bits of you will get jammed between the blade and the razor making a great bacterial zoo. Replacing the blade every 3 shaves (in the beginning) keeps the blades really fresh, and your razor really clean. Since you cut yourself the most starting out, it makes sense to keep the razor as clean as possible during this phase. Once you're shaving and really comfortable, maybe 2-3 months in, then experiment with keeping the blade in longer. I think you'll find that while you can keep a blade for 5-10 shaves, there's a notable difference when you switch to a new blade. That's a sign that your blade was too dull.

Blades:
The first blade you use will be the best blade you have ever used: you have nothing to compare it to. I bought packs of 10 blades from 7 different manufacturers. I used the first manufacturer three times and really liked it. Then I switched to the next manufacturer and realized it felt much better. After three blades (9 shaves), I moved to the next. I took little notes about how it felt, how close and easy the shave was, how much or little I cut myself. The results are a mix of how any given blade sits in any given razor and how your skin and beard react to them. You have to switch it up in the beginning to find what you like best. Once I've tried them all, I plan to go back and start over - did I dislike the first blade because my technique was bad? I'll find out. Once I have my favorites, I can start ordering blades in bulk, even if I like 2-3 different ones, I don't think rotating is bad.

The brush:
We don't like to talk about it, but in the case of badger brushes, an animal died. Now, according to everything I have read, badgers are a nuisance animal and the hair used is brushes is a side benefit: I don't believe these animals are farmed like fur animals. That said, no matter how expensive or cheap, care for your brush. Don't pull on the bristles or you risk unseating the knot or worse, pulling the hairs from the knot. Just squeeze gently to wring it out and make sure it has air to dry appropriately.

The shave experience itself:
I'm still taking 20 minutes from start to finish. It's very slow and time consuming compared to slinging a 5-blade job across my face. Of course, when I use a cartridge like that, I can shave no more frequently than every other day because my skin gets raw and burned if I shave two consecutive days. I can't shave in the morning if it's really cold out.

With the DE's, I've been shaving nearly every day (with a few days off here and there), but up to 7 consecutive days with no redness or burn. My skin is really soft and smooth, and because I trim the whiskers in multiple passes from different angles, they feel less sharp, almost rounded. My grow-out isn't as abrasive as it used to be.

Women are very good at taking care of themselves. They have procedures and rituals for putting on their makeup, do their nails, some even pay someone else to do their nails once each week. As men, we tend to ignore caring for ourselves. Taking 20 minutes just about every day can be a chore if you let it, or it can be a ritual where you have time to think about very little other than shaving and relax with a nice warm layer of foam on your face.

Happy shaving! I hope this was useful to someone!
 
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I might quibble with a few points, but double and triple ditto on just jumping in. I don't like to see people obsess over the decisions.
 

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A good cheap start IMHO is a Vulfix 1000 brush, an EJ89, a 100 pack of Astras, and a tin of Mike's. Not the cheapest, but definitely doable on most budgets. Definitely a just jump in thing, too.
 
I might quibble with a few points, but double and triple ditto on just jumping in. I don't like to see people obsess over the decisions.

Absolutely quibble away, add to the dialog. I found from my own experience and the questions I see that people starting out want to hear that there is an absolute answer to their question. I thought best to find a reasonable absolute that people could use starting out.
 
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Absolutely quibble away, add to the dialog. I found from my own experience and the questions I see that people starting out want to hear that there is an absolute answer to their question. I thought best to find a reasonable absolute that people could use starting out.

I don't think there are absolutes. I could tell a newbie exact specifics instead of being vague, and so could others, not to mention still others who would disagree with the rest of us. I think there are a handful of basic principles*, and I've done my own noob to noob on that. But beyond that there are thousands of ways to shave.

As far as the brush, I believe the sentiment is that a person doesn't need a high end badger brush to get a good shave, that pure badger is fine, but it is said that a good boar brush can be better than an low end badger brush. I don't know, but I don't see a reason to imply that a newbie start with a badger brush, or start with a boar brush, or horse hair, or synthetic. Each has its fine points.

The number of shaves a fellow gets with a blade is variable. But from what I gather the median is more in the direction of 5-7 than 2-3. And I don't think it is that difficult to learn to tell when a blade is done. So I think a blanket recommendation to change every three shaves is extreme. Again, I know you want to give noobs, noob to noob, some absolutes to make sure their first shaves go smoothly, but I think this is an example of the flaw in the plan. There are few absolutes, and that's a lesson newbies need to learn up front.

Switching blades to find out which you like is a bad idea. First, a newbie probably can't really truly tell. Second, it makes it difficult to find consistent technique when you are changing other variables. Finally, a newbie trying to find a better shave by changing tools means he isn't focusing 100% on technique when that is what he should be doing.

Cleaning the razor is a personal thing. I doubt whatever bacterial zoo might be living on my razor is really a problem, and so far it hasn't been. Some guys like their razor nice and shining, some have a higher or lower ick tolerance, and some like me let the soap scum build up. Doesn't matter in the big scheme of things how often you change your blade as far as cleanliness and bacteria and germs are concerned.

I personally don't squeeze my brush, for any reason, at all. That's my educated guess that it will cause damage over time, I don't have any reason to do it, and so I will always avoid doing it. To speed up drying I lightly shake the loose water out after rinsing.


*I think the basic principles to pass on to every newbie are: soften your whiskers with water before you shave, and don't slack off on this step; tools and product are far less important than skill; just touch the razor to your skin and do not press; take your time and learn from every shave, don't try for perfection all at once, skill will come; take your time and enjoy.
 
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Thank you Ira. As a beginner I know I have a lot to learn. I appreciate the input - that was ultimately what I was hoping to do, make a statement and start a conversation.
 
Great post OP! I actually feel that the frequent changing of blades is a great recommendation. The costs are minimal, but the benefits are not. I suppose this is why it is so hard to make black and white rules, because they would be different for everybody!

When I first started, nobody had told me to change the blade before you are ready for it, so I expected the blades to last as long as a cart (about a week for me). I used my first blade for an entire week. I only changed it then because my week was up, I really thought it was still shaving like new. It was not, the first shave with a new blade was infinitely better than the prior shave, but my noob face had no idea until after the fact.

My black and white rule would read just like the OP's: use your blade 3 times and chuck it, save experimenting with blade duration until you have eliminated some of the other variables in the shave. If you keep a blade until it starts to dull, you won't know if it was lousy lather or the dulling blade that upset your face, which IMO will slow down your shaving development.
 
Great post, OP. I think this shaving is something you can make as complicated or as simple as you want. I am the KISS camp.
 
Glad folks are liking the post. It's been about six months and I finally feel I've gotten into a wetshave groove. I've figured out how I shave best - I can do two quick passes if I'm in a super rush (up and down), or 4 passes if I have some time (3 doesn't cut it in a few spots). Getting better at making my lather. It seems nearly every shave is an experiment to see if I can do things a little better.

I started with a sample pack of razors and am almost done with them. I actually started keeping a shave diary - it's an Excel spreadsheet that lists the blade, the crème/soap, the number of nicks/weepers, gives me a spot to jot some notes, and then I have a 10-point criteria to rate the blade. Anal much? The reality is that I have come to see that some blades work really well with my face and some don't. The difference is startling. Some blades scratch and pull while others glide and shave close. I'm almost ready to order my next batch of razors and am coming up with my top 3 blades. If you have the patience, I do recommend keeping track, especially if you're new to this, it helped me really see what works for me and what doesn't. I've also purchased a skuttle which I use for my longer shaves - hugely recommended if you like to keep your lather piping hot until you rinse it away.

Why the true confessions? Well, getting the whole DE shave is a process, and you have to love the experience. It has taken me months of playing around and being inquisitive to improve my shave experience to the point that I actually have a few shaves without a spot of blood and a BBS face and still look forward to my time shaving.

So keep enjoying the experience and make it an enjoyable one.
 
Great post! I'm 3 blades into my first DE and feel validated that I'm on the right track as far as following the tips. I have a mix pack of blades coming soon and will be sure to figure out which is right for me. I used to think of shaving as a chore, now it's a part of the day I really look forward to!
 
I've been averaging three a blade but I am not using blades I would likely use again. They simply came with the razor and not name brands (they are Chinese blades called Ying JiLi.) I got 3 left of them and then I'll likely try Dorco. They aren't bad or good but I'll see between the Astras, Derbys, Dorcos and Sharks I also got.

I haven't used a shaving brush as of yet. I just haven't seen a good deal for one and the only option I've seen are the VDH shave sets that start off at $11.99 at stores. I finally broke down and got one that I'll just use a mug with the Equate foam I currently I have.

Then again I am one of those that came to DE shaving for the cheaper route, not so much the hobby aspect so once I find the blade I like and if the foam works with the brush, I'll keep with that and not be anything fancy.
 
Great post OP! I actually feel that the frequent changing of blades is a great recommendation. The costs are minimal, but the benefits are not. I suppose this is why it is so hard to make black and white rules, because they would be different for everybody!

When I first started, nobody had told me to change the blade before you are ready for it, so I expected the blades to last as long as a cart (about a week for me). I used my first blade for an entire week. I only changed it then because my week was up, I really thought it was still shaving like new. It was not, the first shave with a new blade was infinitely better than the prior shave, but my noob face had no idea until after the fact.

My black and white rule would read just like the OP's: use your blade 3 times and chuck it, save experimenting with blade duration until you have eliminated some of the other variables in the shave. If you keep a blade until it starts to dull, you won't know if it was lousy lather or the dulling blade that upset your face, which IMO will slow down your shaving development.

Nobody told you to change the blade? You should have asked for advise
 
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