The darn mold used in these two is cloned and after years of this it has been degrading. Certainly not the end of the world as wonderful stinky cheeses don't suffer from mold cloning issues. But I do like to put out a nice mellow camembert on the charcuterie board for my less adventurous guests. And Mrs. Chef will straight up poop a if there is no brie en croute for the holidays. Yup, that's the frightening aspect right there.