Volume of Smoke?

[mwhitcraft]

Just puffing. Cigars and Pipes are never supposed to be inhaled. I don't have taste buds in my lungs, so there would be zero benefit in inhaling.

I like the effects of nicotine too much to not inhale.

 

[the_edski]

I purposely inhale through my nostrils some of the smoke that drifts out from puffing, but that is really only due to it adding to the level of flavor and scent you can pick up.

Yeah, retrohaling like that brings out the aroma of the tobacco. Full blown inhale is not for me.

Didn't mean to judge, Rat. Nasal inhaling is fine, I'm just against full on lung inhaling for pipes.

 

[Shave_Rat]

Didn't mean to judge, Rat. Nasal inhaling is fine, I'm just against full on lung inhaling for pipes.

No worries, I didn't take it as judging. Just offering up info on what for me is a nice balance between the two points, and which does enhance the whole pipe experience for me.

 

[COHunter]

My preferred method is the "snork". Take the smoke into the mouth, exhale through the nose. You kind of "push" the smoke through the nasal passages with the tongue pushing toward the roof of the mouth. I was never any good at retrohaling (French inhale) without getting it into the windbags and coughing.

 

[Shave_Rat]

My preferred method is the "snork". Take the smoke into the mouth, exhale through the nose. You kind of "push" the smoke through the nasal passages with the tongue pushing toward the roof of the mouth. I was never any good at retrohaling (French inhale) without getting it into the windbags and coughing.

Just the opposite, trying to push it out through the nose for me is just not really anything I can manage... I have tried. lol

 

[intotheforge]

My preferred method is the "snork". Take the smoke into the mouth, exhale through the nose. You kind of "push" the smoke through the nasal passages with the tongue pushing toward the roof of the mouth. I was never any good at retrohaling (French inhale) without getting it into the windbags and coughing.

I've never heard of snorking; but I'll give it a shot. I do the retrohaling thing without even thinking about it or even meaning too. HOTW sometimes will even cause my nostrils to burn a bit.

 

[SweetOne69]

My preferred method is the "snork". Take the smoke into the mouth, exhale through the nose. You kind of "push" the smoke through the nasal passages with the tongue pushing toward the roof of the mouth. I was never any good at retrohaling (French inhale) without getting it into the windbags and coughing.

I was taught that this was retrohaling? Apparently people have different definitions of retrohaling is. The latest edition of the P&C catalog described retrohaling as exhaling through the nose, NOT "sniffing" the smoke in through the nose.

 

[oc_in_fw]

I was taught that this was retrohaling? Apparently people have different definitions of retrohaling is. The latest edition of the P&C catalog described retrohaling as exhaling through the nose, NOT "sniffing" the smoke in through the nose.

Yes- if you have air in your lungs, and exhale through the nose with the mouth close, the vacuum will draw the smoke out of your mouth to be mixed with the air you are exhaling. There really is no thought involved.

 

[Shave_Rat]

My preferred method is the "snork". Take the smoke into the mouth, exhale through the nose. You kind of "push" the smoke through the nasal passages with the tongue pushing toward the roof of the mouth. I was never any good at retrohaling (French inhale) without getting it into the windbags and coughing.

I was taught that this was retrohaling? Apparently people have different definitions of retrohaling is. The latest edition of the P&C catalog described retrohaling as exhaling through the nose, NOT "sniffing" the smoke in through the nose.

Yes- if you have air in your lungs, and exhale through the nose with the mouth close, the vacuum will draw the smoke out of your mouth to be mixed with the air you are exhaling. There really is no thought involved.

So it seems that "retrohaling" and "french inhale" are different things, not to be confused with each other. What I do with my pipe is a french inhale, not a retrohale. Ilet the smoke drift from the puff out, then inhale through the nostrils, drawing it in... which, btw, doesn't work so well if there is pretty much any wind/breeze... lol

 

[oc_in_fw]

So it seems that "retrohaling" and "french inhale" are different things, not to be confused with each other. What I do with my pipe is a french inhale, not a retrohale. Ilet the smoke drift from the puff out, then inhale through the nostrils, drawing it in... which, btw, doesn't work so well if there is pretty much any wind/breeze... lol

Yep, that is French inhaling as I am led to believe.

 

[cb91710]

I know some people who have a hard time NOT inhaling--former cigarette smokers all.

As a former Camel smoker, I CAN'T inhale.

I suppose it depends on if you migrate directly from cigs to pipes and cigars, or if you take a break.
I quit for 6 months before moving on to pipes.
I can't smoke in the truck with the windows closed, and we don't smoke in the house... and it's too boring to wander around the condo complex for an hour+ smoking a bowl.
So I smoke on the way home from work, when the weather doesn't require the window to be up because of rain or heat.

If I even get a hint of a "hotbox" or accidentally inhale, it ends up being nausea and dizziness.

But when I was smoking 1-2 packs of Camels a day, I'd inhale cigars.

 

[COHunter]

I always interpreted the retrohaling as the gentle escape of smoke out of the mouth with the gentle nasal intake without fully inhaling, (which I also called the French Inhale) where the "snork" is all on the exhale, not a "circular" type of operation.

...learn something new every day! Maybe retrohaling was a term coined to make it sound fancier than the lowly "snork"....

 

[the_edski]

I think I know what next month's debate could be about...unless we think it's all talked out here....

 

[Commander Quan]

Snorking and Retrohaling are the same thing.

As far as I know French Inhaling does not help with olifacotry perception, and is just a trick like Blowing Smoke Rings

 

[Shave_Rat]

Snorking and Retrohaling are the same thing.

As far as I know French Inhaling does not help with olifacotry perception, and is just a trick like Blowing Smoke Rings

As one that does the French inhale fairly often as part of my pipe enjoyment, I can say that it 100% helps with olfactory perception. While I can't say it gets the same results as retrohaling, it gives a definite difference compared to just sipping and exhaling.

 

[Commander Quan]

Are you able to detect anything different than when RHing?

 

[Shave_Rat]

Are you able to detect anything different than when RHing?

That is a skill I have yet to acquire, which is why I'm not able to give a break down on the differences between the two from my perspective. I've tried a few times to figure out how to do it, and so far it just makes me cough. lol

 

[Commander Quan]

You need to push the smoke into the back of you're mouth almost like your going to swallow while exhaling from your lungs through your nose.

 

[Shave_Rat]

You need to push the smoke into the back of you're mouth almost like your going to swallow while exhaling from your lungs through your nose.

Yeah, I read a few things on it, it may as well have said "Pat your head while you rub your tummy counter clockwise"

 

[The Dean]

You need to push the smoke into the back of you're mouth almost like your going to swallow while exhaling from your lungs through your nose.

This is what I have always referred to as "retro-haling", and it can add quite a bit to the olfactory perception. The French inhale (which I have done with...er...um...other smokables. While I don't think it helps much with a cigar, it can add to the enjoyment of---er...um...other smokables.