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My First-ever DE Shave

Before I even get into anything, let me begin by thanking everyone here for providing such great information! I don't know if I would have gotten into single-bladed shaving if it wasn't for all of you. So, bravo! And kudos to everyone.

I'll be 29 this year, which means I've been shaving for a fair amount of my life already. I started out with an electric razor; a Norelco. Save, easy, and relatively effective for a youngster, it worked okay for what I needed it for. Not too long after, I experimented a little with some disposable razors I found, which were used by the ladies of the house for their legs. They had one blade and were quite rough on the face. That didn't last long... But I picked up a nicer razor, probably a Mach 3, and found that it was significantly better than those cheap, disposable razors. Ever since, I've used a multi-bladed razor, most-recently being a Schick Hydro 5, the nicest one I've used to-date.

My experience with the 5-bladed wonder-razor was really good, but only at the start of using each new cartridge. Over time, they would dull, and I would need more and more passes to get everything. So, about every two weeks, I toss it away and grab a new one. Considering they're roughly $3 each, that's not cheap in the long run.

As for my cream, I've been using Nivea Sensitive Skin shaving gel. It may be from a can, but it lathers quite nicely, doesn't irritate my skin, has little odor, and wasn't horribly expensive at around $2.50-$3.00 per can. Lubrication seemed pretty decent, with a nice, thick lather. I have a whole mess of it stockpiled, so I'll likely keep using it with my cartridge razor while I still have some to use.

Recently I noticed a post for a DE razor on a deal site that I frequent, and got curious. I started looking into the comments, and people seemed to love them. Another couple of weeks of research, going over product reviews, message boards, etc. and I realized that this could be a great thing to get into. So, I figured I would give it a shot. I hemmed and hawed about which razor to get. But a LOT of people seem to really like the Edwin Jagger razors for their excellent chrome finish and quality, as well as the nice shave. So that's what I decided to go with.

My first set up consists of the following:

  • Edwin Jagger DE89BA11 Barley razor
  • Tweezerman badger-hair brush
  • Truefitt & Hill sample pack (had 9 different creams!, about 3-4 aftershaves, and 1 pre-shave oil)
  • Derby Extra razor blades

I also have a few other razor blades, but I figured I would try the Derby's first. The rest are 7am, Sharp, and I ordered a pack of Feathers for later on once I get some experience.

The first shave started well. But I found the lather a bit lacking. Perhaps I needed to use more cream, or a little more water. But, it didn't seem to be a lot of later in the bowl. Applying it to my face, I saw it was a fairly thin coat of lather. Not watery or really thin, but it seemed to dry out fairly quickly. So, I think I need more water in my lather next time.

Once I got started with the razor, it felt very natural to me. Not unlike using the cartridge razor I have always used. (Although, I used much less pressure, obviously!) I did a first pass mostly WTG to get things knocked down a bit. And then on my next pass, instinctively, I started mimicking what I do with my cartridge. I went XTG and ATG. It didn't bother me at all to do that, as long as I used sufficient lather for lubrication. If I needed to touch up here or there, just slap a little more lather on and hit it with the razor again. Easy!

After I finished up, which consisted of about 3 passes total (it's hard to tell, when you're doing touch-up here and there... it was more like 2 passes with touch-up), I rinsed thoroughly with cold water. I never do that, so I was hesitant. But after the first splashes of cold water, it felt pretty nice. I had a few nicks here and there, but those were due to bumps I already had on my face from a few pimples. I expect them to bleed when I hit them with a razor, so no big deal there. The cold water helped to seal them up nicely. Then I rubbed in some Nivea Sensitive aftershave balm (white jar). It soothed a bit, but the cooling sensation didn't last too long. I think I'll want something that cools longer next time I look for AS, or I'll try one of the T&H AS samples.

All-in-all, I didn't find it terribly difficult to do. I found it fairly enjoyable, and I don't really notice much razor burn. The face is a little bit warm, but I assume once I get used to shaving this way that the small amount of razor burn I do have will minimize. My face feels nice and smooth nearly everywhere, except a little bit on the neck. Even better and healthier than when I use my cartridge. I'm guessing that will improve over time, as well.

Another thought goes to razor blades... I think the Derby's worked just fine. They felt a little bit rough, but I think it may be due to my poor lather or my inexperience. I'll continue using them for now and see how things go.

Last thing is the brush. It worked okay, but was a bit prickly unless you swirl it gently. I can't press it into my face and have it spread out nicely like others have demonstrated here. I hope this brush will soften up over time. It also had a bit of a funk to it, once I started to lather up. I'm sure that'll go away. But it wasn't terribly pleasant. Any tips on ridding the brush of the badger funk?

So, that's it! My first DE shaving experience. I'll likely do this on weekends to start with, since I'll have the time. But I foresee this as an experience I'll eventually transition to every day.

Lastly... a few photos to share!

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Closeup of the razor:
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Closer Closeup of the barley pattern on the handle... I love it!
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Welcome to B&B. The shaves pretty much get better and better over time. Sounds like your off to a good start. As for the brush, you can shampoo it a few times. Each time should cut any funk incrementally. You could also palm lather it a few times as well. I have a horse hair brush that I had to invest some effort in to cut the smell. Mine smelled more like industrial medicated disinfectant shampoo more than a horse. Kind of makes sense they would sterilize it. The smell clung for a few days, but finally dissipated.

Congrats...
 
Welcome aboard the good ship B&B. Take a stroll on the promenade deck and enjoy the voyage. :thumbup1:

Always remember, relax but be vigilant when you shave!
 
Thanks for the warm welcome! :)

I definitely think that I'm going to shampoo the brush a few times. I noticed the water I soaked it in had a funky tinge to it. So hopefully that'll help get the funk out.

After several hours, I still don't notice any real razor burn, so I'm pretty happy with my first shave. It felt nice and smooth, although there were a couple of slightly coarse patches. But that's to be expected. I didn't have any issues with going ATG at all. I think it has to do with the fact that I already do that with my cartridge razor, and have been for years. I had issues doing it initially, but it settled down. So, perhaps I've already conditioned my skin for it. But the areas that are smooth are really, really nice. The AS balm helped quite a bit with it, but I don't remember my face feeling that good after a shave in... well... probably ever.

Between the condition of my face and the gorgeous, shiny razor, I think I'm hooked! But I'll try a few more rounds with it before I fully commit.
 
welcome to B&B
i found the Tweezerman to be a hit or a miss when i uses it. still trying to figure out if it the brush is too scratchy or the bay rum scent soap is making my skin warm.
there a few way to remove that funk could load the brush and left it loaded over night and rinse in morning. could try soaking barely up to the knot with warm water and vinegar for 30 mins ( i have done it longer and a few times. ) YMMV with the vinegar bath.
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I think I'll try shampooing the brush a couple times to see if that helps, since that'll be quickest. If that doesn't help, maybe I'll load it up with lather and let it sit. I've seen that suggestion a few times. I'm not sure if that just disguises the scent, or actually helps to remove it. Otherwise, it doesn't bother me so much that I won't use it. And I know it'll go away over time, so I don't want to spend an inordinate amount of time just trying to avoid the funk.

Oh, and so far, I started with the T&H 1805 cream. Nice, mild scent. I like it. Kinda floral, and not overpowering. But I have 8 more to try! Have to see if I like any others more.
 
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Had my second DE shave this afternoon. Not quite as nice as the first, but I was a bit quicker getting into it than the first go-around. I felt pretty comfortable, aside from the sensitive spots, like the upper lip and adam's apple. No real razor burn, again. Nice and smooth. But as before, a few nicks from existing bumps that will eventually go away. I also slightly nicked my upper lip, but that's my own fault. No real harm done.

I noticed that I already have a bit of experience with at least once technique that I've seen around here called buffing. I've done it with my cartridge razor for a while now, and it seems to come naturally in certain areas of my face, particularly near the back of my jawline. Also, once in a while, I'll notice I do a little bit of J-hooking. Not quite like in mantic59's videos on YouTube. A bit longer and larger radius. But it goes naturally with the direction that my hair grows. It's funny how you develop these little habits after a while, without even really knowing that it's a specific type of technique.

This second attempt also resulted in a better lather that didn't dry out, like the first shave. I used a bit more water and cream to get a larger volume, and that really helped. I'm still not sure if I need to lather longer to get a thicker, richer lather, or not. I'll keep experimenting until I get something I think is where I want it. Because of the larger volume of lather, I was able to apply more to my face. But it seems the lather isn't as thick as it appears in tutorial videos.
 
Welcome to B&B.

Everything boils down to personal preferences.


“Best Brush”

A Brush is a Brush and they perform differently and they are different. Boar, Badger, Horsehair, Horsehair/Boar/Badger Combos, or Syns. Get a Boar (cheap or expensive) or a Good Badger Brush.


“Soap/Cream/Stick”

Soap or Cream or Stick ... Stick or Cream or Soap ... cheap or expensive ... expensive or cheap ... glycerin based, cold processed, tripled milled, or tallow. Get a couple of each and see what works best for you.


“Safety Razor”

Safety Razors ... determine what you want and how much you are willing to spend - Open Comb, Closed Comb, TTOs, 2-Piece, 3-Piece or an adjustable. The Merkur HD or Edwin Jagger 89 are both good beginning Safety Razors. Or get an Old Gillette (SuperSpeed or 3-Piece).


“Razor Blades”

Blades ... Get a Sampler Pack and then ... Good Luck. The differences between whether a Blade is Good or Bad for any individual is because the Hand of God is at work. Maybe it is the shave preparation, or maybe it is the type of hairs being shaven, or maybe it is the patterns on the face being shaven, or the type of Razor being used (different angles or blade gaps are created by the different razor head being used), or the shaving technique being used (wrong angle, too much pressure being used and pushing down on the razor to "cut closer", or even not using multiple-passes to reduce hair growth first and always), or maybe there is one or two Bad Blades in the pack being used, or maybe for whatever reason it is a Bad Blade to you.


”Best Blade”

At first use only One Razor Blade ... use this blade only for a few weeks ... changing when dull.


The First Razor Blade you use is your “Best Blade.”

Get several of your First Best Blade.

Get down the Basics of Shaving – Preparation, Lathering, Shaving with the Razor – light touch, proper angle and little pressure, Multi-Passes – WTG, XTG, and Reverse-XTG.

Get more information and look at the Mantic59 Youtube videos, the GeoFatBoy videos and read the Wiki.


“Finding Your Best Blade”

After you have everything down ... then use a different blade for a week and see if it becomes your new "Best Blade".

If not go back to the other blade for a week then, use a different blade for a week.

Your Best Blade is your base line blade for your tests. When you find your “Next Best Blade” then, that is your “New Best Blade”. Continue working through your sampler pack looking for a “New Best Blade”.

Please note that Different Safety Razors may have a different “Best Blade” and if you have poor technique then it will also affect your choice of a “New Best Blade”.


“Map Your Face”

Make Sure you have Mapped Your Face because that is the only way to know which way your hair grows.


“Technique”

Also make sure that your preshave preparation is down.

Then shave WTG, XTG and Reverse-XTG.

Rinse, Lather, WTG
Rinse, Lather, XTG
Rinse, Lather, Reverse-XTG
Rinse, Lather, Buffing.

No Rinse, No Lather, No Shave.

For the first few weeks ... Do not do ATG ... Wait until you have your technique down because you could and usually will be holding the safety razor upside down when shaving your neck and this may cause you some problems when trying to maintain the correct blade angle while applying a light pressure.


Be careful of Feather blades as they are super sharp and unforgiving make sure you are confident of your technique before using them.

Have Fun Shaving and May All Your Shaves Be BBS.
 
Thanks for all of the information! I'm working on just getting technique down for now, and getting used to using very light to no pressure. I need to slow down and be patient with multiple passes, and not try to rush things, like I do with my cartridge razor.

I plan to keep those Feather blades for a while, until I get used to shaving, before I try them out. I'll stick with the Derby's for now, then try a couple other blades. I'm only using the Derby's for maybe 2-3 shaves before switching to a new blade.

I've already sat down and mapped out my facial hair direction. That definitely helped. Just have to keep working at it, and enjoy the nice shave.
 

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are in order on your 1st DE Shave and Welcome to B & B.
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It sounds like you are well on your way to (besides being enrolled in the fictional, sacred and utopian Order of Shavedom), excellence. As always, don't forget the three (3) P's of shaving (Practice, Patience and Procedure [technique]), we're here to assist you in your DE experience. :yesnod:

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Well, a few more shaves down, and I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of this shaving stuff. I still get some nicks from hitting some bumps, but they're manageable. I would've hit those with my cartridge razor, anyway. But, a few things I've picked up since my first couple of shaves:


  • I need to use more water in my lather! I whipped up a lather with T&H Sandalwood this morning, and I tried adding more water to it. It really lathered nicely, and provided the best lubrication I've had in my DE shaves, yet. So... more water! I need to not shake so much out of the brush, or pay more attention to how dry the lather is.
  • I also tested out the other couple of blade brands that I received with my EJ DE89BA11 (see photo above). Everyone keeps saying to try different brands to see if they work for you. So, I gave it a whirl.

    Reviews seemed to lean toward those Sharp blades being somewhat decent, so I tried one of those. Man, that thing nicked me up something fierce! I did NOT like that blade at all. It seemed to tug and scratch more so than actually cut facial hair... I swapped it out after only a single pass, and switched to the 7am blade. That felt significantly nicer than the Sharp, but still not that great. For now, the Derby's have been the best to my face. I have more blades on the way to try out, so I'll see how those feel once they arrive. I ordered 5-packs of Red Persona, Gillette 7 'o Clock Sharp Edge (yellow box, which I'll likely keep for a while before I try them, since I hear they're quite sharp like Feathers), and Astra. Hopefully I'll like a couple of these better than the Derby blades. But if not, the Derby's feel fine, for now. If nothing else, they'll help assist with getting my technique down until I find something better.
  • I went through the sampler pack from T&H to find a nice-smelling cream and aftershave. Most of them I didn't like that much, but I did enjoy the 1805 and the Sandalwood. So I decided to go with a sandalwood scent for my cream and aftershave products. They go well with my colognes, which have some of that same spicy scent to them. I may try the 1805 next time I need to order anything. To start, I ordered a tub of EJ Sandalwood cream, and EJ Sandalwood aftershave. I really hope I like them, since they're not the cheapest products out there. I guess they're the same as the Mühle-branded shaving products, which have gotten really good reviews. I'm really looking forward to trying them! I hope they get here before my T&H samples run out, too... only a few days' worth left!
  • I also decided to bite the bullet and get a nicer brush. The Tweezerman i bought works fine, and it has definitely softened up since I first got it. But it's kinda prickly. Since it's so cheap, I'm assuming the hair has been trimmed, causing the prickly ends. So, I ordered a Simpson Berkeley Best Badger brush. For costing half a Benjamin, I hope it's worth the price. I like DE shaving, but I'd better stick with it, if I'm going to put this kind of cash into it. I thought about an EJ brush, since I've been going with that brand for other items. But I read that they're nice, but overpriced a bit. After a lot of reading, I noticed people recommended the Simpson Berkeley for a good step up from a basic entry-level brush. It's another item I'm really looking forward to trying out.

So, anyway, that's the quick (or, not-so-quick) update. If anyone has any feedback, good, bad, or indifferent, feel free to share. :)
 
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