So, by way of attacking this question from a different angle, what are the serial numbers of any double rings we have out there?
OK, here's another entry on this controversial subject. I picked up this single ring in a Times Square box for a steal, hoping that it would turn out to be an early 1906 4xx,xxx serial number.
It arrived this week, and of course my first action was to pull out the shaft and check the serial number. Much to my astonishment, it appears to read 280,226 . Got out the magnifying glass and could not detect even a hint of a letter before the number. The blade plate has no markings, and the tube has the 1904 pat. stamping.
After perusing quite a few threads on the subject, i could only find mention of one other single ring with a 2xx,xxx number (288,248), which was mentioned here: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showth...from-1905?highlight=lowest+number+single+ring
Of course, the single and double ring shafts are identical, so there is no way to really tell if one was switched at some point in the past 105 years.
I'm still happy to have a great old case and razor for $20, but disappointed that I may never know for sure if it is a prototype, test market razor, or just a mis-matched set.
The lowest ive seen is 4647 ) but there could be a lower one out there?So, by way of attacking this question from a different angle, what are the serial numbers of any double rings we have out there?
Im Curious, is it possible for an inner barrel/shaft of any single ring or double ring be inter changed? Im pretty sure it can be done? And if someone doest that there is no way of telling the real time that razor wad made? That change Barrel/Shaft could of been from a double ring?
So, by way of attacking this question from a different angle, what are the serial numbers of any double rings we have out there?
The lowest ive seen is 4647 ) but there could be a lower one out there?
Thanks, How can i get my Pat. Apl'd For on that list ?There is a listing B&B members who own a double ring and the serial numbers in the wiki.
http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/Gillette_Double_Ring
Thanks, How can i get my Pat. Apl'd For on that list ?
There is a listing B&B members who own a double ring and the serial numbers in the wiki.
http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/Gillette_Double_Ring
Wait a tick... I'm at work and my pictures are not accessible to me, but I had a non-serial numbered pat apl'd for (Still do technically but can't find it) Double Ring who's barrel absolutely was NOT interchangeable with any single ring. Even when fully twisted on it left a gap at the bottom. Trying to put a single ring innards into the double ring's handle didn't allow the razor's threads to fully engage as the barrel of the double ring was simply too long.
Are most single ring and double ring parts interchangeable?
Thanks, How can i get my Pat. Apl'd For on that list ?
Owner/ Location | Serial Number | Type |
Canberra, Australia | 0 | Double Ring |
Charleston, WV | 0 | Double Ring |
Chicago, IL | 0 | Double Ring |
IL, USA | 0 | Double Ring |
Wichita, KS | 0 | Double Ring |
Glendale, NY | 4647 | Double Ring |
Dongguan, China | 6768 | Double Ring |
Indiana | 10190 | Double Ring |
Harrisonburg, VA | 12789 | Double Ring |
Michigan | 15673 | Double Ring |
Jenks, Oklahoma | 16951 | Double Ring |
Charleston, WV | 21964 | Double Ring |
Canberra, Australia | 27300 | Double Ring |
Houston, TX | 33019 | Double Ring |
Detroit, MI | 38815 | Double Ring |
Birmingham, AL | 44757 | Double Ring |
Charleston, WV | 45107 | Double Ring |
Appleton, WI | 50038 | Double Ring |
Dongguan, China | 58903 | Double Ring |
Canberra, Australia | 61408 | Double Ring |
CA, USA | 62936 | Double Ring |
Weston, MA USA | 63837 | Double Ring |
Indiana | 64345 | Double Ring |
Portland, OR USA | 209740 | Double Ring |
Iowa | 214432 | Double Ring |
Detroit, MI | 236598 | Double Ring |
Jacksonville, FL | 239848 | Double Ring |
Parma, Italy | 256251 | Double Ring |
San Antonio, TX | 265555 | Double Ring |
Dongguan, China | 272396 | Double Ring |
CA, USA | 273926 | Double Ring |
prophetic_joe | 278278 | Single Ring |
shekoujay | 280226 | Single Ring |
Manning | 280868 | Single Ring |
Elmerwood | 281802 | Single Ring |
t_Rick | 288248 | Single Ring |
shekoujay | 290609 | Single Ring |
GoTeeGuy | 299385 | Single Ring |
Mark1966 | G306068 | Gold Single Ring |
eBay sighting | 308091 | Single Ring |
quailrunner | G308151 | Gold Single Ring (engraved) |
eBay sighting | 319510 | Single Ring |
BroJohn | 320776 | Single Ring |
GB5 | 324834 | Single Ring |
shekoujay | 329875 | Single Ring |
sleddog | 332759 | Single Ring |
staxchipswell | 337100 | Single Ring |
Mr-Razor | 337905 | Single Ring |
TCP | 359651 | Single Ring |
Oldguy | 395005 | Single Ring |
tnsplayer | G401741 | Gold Single Ring |
shavefreak | G401861 | Gold Single Ring (engraved) |
Dongguan, China | 458142 | Double Ring |
highball | 589068 | Double Ring |
Quebec, Canada | 589850 | Double Ring |
Nice chart Mark. I was curious as to the earliest single ring we've seen as I just picked up a new one with #281802. So this one falls in with the rest of the early single rings.
That's a nice chart, and heartening that it has a nice clean cutoff between singles and doubles.
It does suggest the old serial number charts are off by about 100,000 units. This is really no surprise since the old chart was based on a SWAG by Gillette based on production numbers.
The June 1906 date does still hold water because that is backed up by searches of advertising. That is about when they changed the model they were selling. The discrepancy between dates and serials could be due to production lag, built up inventory of interchangeable parts or any number of other factors.