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11-06-2009, 12:59 PM
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11-06-2009, 01:38 PM
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I'm just testing my new avatar. It's a shame some people don't like the title.
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11-06-2009, 01:50 PM
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Personally, I could care less what they call it. I don't like pro-sports. College sports, now that is a different story!
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11-06-2009, 01:51 PM
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I am not sure why it is called a world series, but I do have an idea as to why baseball is called "the national pass time", it is because it takes forever to play a dang game. :) I am joking, no disrespect. :)
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11-06-2009, 02:25 PM
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Personally, I could care less what they call it. I don't like pro-sports. College sports, now that is a different story!
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Ok, what about the "College World Series"???
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11-06-2009, 02:55 PM
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Quoted from Wikipedia-
"Since the Series takes place in October, sportswriters many years ago dubbed the event the Fall Classic, a usage reflected in the official symbols of the 2009 World Series; it is also sometimes known as the October Classic or simply The Series."
So in reality its the Fall Classic, but I'm guessing less people would watch it if it weren't named the World Series. My opinion is that it really isn't much different than any other regular season or playoff game, other than the crowd involvement and fan emotions. Sure the players have more pressure but isn't that what they deal with for all 162 regular season games too? :)
On a side note I say take our all star teams, put the two together with the best players from the NL and AL all star teams and put them up against any team the rest of the world can make, guaranteed win. The world baseball classic was NOT an accurate representation of the US players. They had US minor league players out there for 1/2 or more than 1/2 of the team. As stated before, most of our best players were scattered around in various other countries' teams, so that nullifies any arguments about the WBC. Its even a common thing for the MLB's average player to go to other countries to play, have super numbers and come back and have the same performance here.
Happy debating :)
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11-06-2009, 03:16 PM
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Quoted from Wikipedia-
"Since the Series takes place in October, sportswriters many years ago dubbed the event the Fall Classic, a usage reflected in the official symbols of the 2009 World Series; it is also sometimes known as the October Classic or simply The Series."
So in reality its the Fall Classic, but I'm guessing less people would watch it if it weren't named the World Series. My opinion is that it really isn't much different than any other regular season or playoff game, other than the crowd involvement and fan emotions. Sure the players have more pressure but isn't that what they deal with for all 162 regular season games too? :)
On a side note I say take our all star teams, put the two together with the best players from the NL and AL all star teams and put them up against any team the rest of the world can make, guaranteed win. The world baseball classic was NOT an accurate representation of the US players. They had US minor league players out there for 1/2 or more than 1/2 of the team. As stated before, most of our best players were scattered around in various other countries' teams, so that nullifies any arguments about the WBC. Its even a common thing for the MLB's average player to go to other countries to play, have super numbers and come back and have the same performance here.
Happy debating :)
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We aren't discussing which league could assemble the best squad and win a series (which is still debatable). The fact is that we call something the "World Series" that is, by definition, a misnomer. The point about the WBC is that there are a lot of great baseball players the world over. Korea only had one MLB player and they played for the title. Japan won the thing with only 4 MLB players. I couldn't identify the minor leaguers playing for the US team, but I'm sure you're right about that. The point about the WBC was that there is sufficient evidence presented there to suggest that the professional leagues of the other countries COULD POTENTIALLY produce a team good enough to beat the MLB champions.
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11-06-2009, 03:29 PM
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Ok, what about the "College World Series"???
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11-06-2009, 04:03 PM
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The point about the WBC was that there is sufficient evidence presented there to suggest that the professional leagues of the other countries COULD POTENTIALLY produce a team good enough to beat the MLB champions.
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The only evidence to qualify for a shot at the World Series, is to have a team that competes for 162 games in a year in the US MLB system. The WBC, in my opinion is a joke, many professional MLB players are not allowed or don't want to participate in the event because they have binding contract with American teams.
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11-06-2009, 04:08 PM
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...The point about the WBC was that there is sufficient evidence presented there to suggest that the professional leagues of the other countries COULD POTENTIALLY produce a team good enough to beat the MLB champions.
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I think you're crazy if you think any team from any other country's pro league could beat the yankees in any kind of series.
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11-06-2009, 07:00 PM
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I think you're crazy if you think any team from any other country's pro league could beat the yankees in any kind of series.
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I think you're crazy if you think that there isn't at least a possibility of it. I guess the fact that I've played international baseball competition has given me more respect for their players than the average person. I'll be honest with you. The Koreans were unreal that I played against, and the Japanese gave us everything we wanted...
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11-06-2009, 09:27 PM
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I think you're crazy if you think any team from any other country's pro league could beat the yankees in any kind of series.
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I'll go out on a limb and say that the Japanese national team would probably beat the Yankees. Heck, even our lowly Osaka team, the Hanshin Tigers, crunched the Yankees 11-7 when they played back in 2004.
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11-06-2009, 09:29 PM
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The WBC, in my opinion is a joke...
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Do you only feel that way because your team lost? And you can't tell me that there weren't any good players on the U.S. roster:
http://www.worldbaseballclassic.com/...x.jsp?team=usa
At any rate, that final game between Korea and Japan was probably the most exciting game I've ever watched.
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11-06-2009, 11:28 PM
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Do you only feel that way because your team lost? And you can't tell me that there weren't any good players on the U.S. roster:
http://www.worldbaseballclassic.com/...x.jsp?team=usa
At any rate, that final game between Korea and Japan was probably the most exciting game I've ever watched.
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I don't know if I'd go that far, but I loved it too. Great game!
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11-06-2009, 11:35 PM
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I don't know if I'd go that far, but I loved it too. Great game!
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I must admit, I was caught up in the frenzy here in Japan during that time (and I knew all the players from the games here)...this whole place was insane when they won.
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11-06-2009, 11:37 PM
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I must admit, I was caught up in the frenzy here in Japan during that time (and I knew all the players from the games here)...this whole place was insane when they won. 
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I'm sure it did. The funny thing is that the "eye ball" test said that Korea was more talented than virtually every team in the classic (imo all of them, but that's debatable), and they only had 1 MLB player... Asian baseball is no joke!
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11-07-2009, 03:36 AM
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I am not sure why it is called a world series, but I do have an idea as to why baseball is called "the national pass time", it is because it takes forever to play a dang game. :) I am joking, no disrespect. :)
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If you think a baseball game take a long time, you should see international cricket. A test match is played over 5 days. It can be like watching paint dry, but every now and then you get flashes of the sublime.
We've got the West Indies and Pakistan touring Oz this summer and I can't wait.
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11-07-2009, 07:28 AM
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If you think a baseball game take a long time, you should see international cricket. A test match is played over 5 days. It can be like watching paint dry, but every now and then you get flashes of the sublime.
We've got the West Indies and Pakistan touring Oz this summer and I can't wait.
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I can't remember the guy's name off the top of my head, but I met the head of the players' union for professional Cricket one night in Austin, Texas. That was some of the most interesting sports talk that I've ever had the opportunity to participate in. He was there with a former NFL player (friend of mine), and Greg Swindell, with some other friends of theirs... It was awesome
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11-07-2009, 11:42 PM
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I can't remember the guy's name off the top of my head, but I met the head of the players' union for professional Cricket one night in Austin, Texas. That was some of the most interesting sports talk that I've ever had the opportunity to participate in. He was there with a former NFL player (friend of mine), and Greg Swindell, with some other friends of theirs... It was awesome
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Cricket is an interesting sport with lots of tactical and strategic elements. I watched much of the US baseball playoffs and as I learnt more about the game, I see a strong resemblence to cricket in the way that tactics and strategy are crucial. It also seems that baseball, like cricket, is a statistician's delight.
I imagine that, like cricket, you must watch baseball from an early age to understand and appreciate all the subtle nuances that make the game so great.
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I'm a baseball fan so I'm not dissing MLB, but it seems arrogant to call someone a "World Champion" when they didn't compete against anyone more than 2000 miles from their hometown.
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Just responding to the original question. Here's what I turned up in a Google search. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_it_...e_World_Series
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