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The Dark Side of Corn Huskers Lotion

You're either new to the world of chemicals or you're new to the world of cosmetics, or both

But....ClubmanRob....is he wrong ? I don't know anything about organic chemistry....is the stuff bad for your face ?

I do know lots about bacon though. Haven't tried rubbing it on my face...yet.
 
But....ClubmanRob....is he wrong ? I don't know anything about organic chemistry....is the stuff bad for your face ?

I do know lots about bacon though. Haven't tried rubbing it on my face...yet.

I'll try and break it down by chemical.

I just dumped my Corn Huskers Lotion in the trash.

There is nothing organic about Corn Huskers. The biggest danger is the the large amount of methylparaban. It is the substance that made a fortune for Estee Lauder by making preservative free cosmetics. Cheap cosmetics have large amounts of it also and are responsible for the rosy cheeks that develop after you are sensitized to it. Skin is great for making you allergic to substances in life.

Methylparaben, synthetic preservatives are used in 99% of the skin and hair products made today. Highly toxic and cause allergic/skin reactions. Recent medical studies indicate these chemicals are estrogenic. This means they mimic estrogen in the body with butylparaban being the most potent

Methylparaben is one of the most widely used chemicals in cosmetic products today, it's also found in about 90% of processed foods. It's non toxic and has never been known to cause allergic reactions unless ingested (that is, eaten) in large quantities. It is used as a safer substitute for fiber for people that can't otherwise take fiber in their diet. It metabolizes at a very fast rate and is excreted rather quickly. It has an inherent anti-fungal quality that makes it ideal to be used on the skin, as it has a reputation for being one of (if not the) least irritating topical bacteriostatic agents in existence.

Methylparaben is not dangerous by any stretch of the imagination and to say that it is highly toxic is an outright lie.

Another problem is that once you are allergic to it, you will develop a cross reaction to paba and benzoic acid structures. Multi-dose vials of medications contain this as a preservative and people that list multiple allergies are not actully allergic to the medication but to the preservative.

Again, an outright lie. I'd like to think that in the age of limitless information that bull**** like this would cease to exist, but it only seems to spread itself quicker than when misinformation was confined to books and word-of-mouth.

Here are the ingrediaents
Water, Glycerin, (Moisturizer) SD Alcohol 40, (Solvent) basically vodka

I'm not even going to get into this, but if you'll do a search here you'll find many chats about the different types of alcohols used in aftershaves and such, and to state that Denatured alcohol is basically Vodka really makes me question why someone would have the gall to say that they practice chemistry for a living.

Sodium Calcium Alginate, viscous gum that is abundant in the cell walls of brown algae. It ranges from white to yellowish-brown, and takes filamentous, granular and powdered forms used for thickening

Sodium Calcium Alginate is not "abundant" in the cell walls of brown algae, as sodium is what is used to extract the calcium in algae.

Wondering where he got the very exact mention of "brown" algae in particular, I clicked on over to the wikipedia page on Calcium Alginate, which yielded the results I looking for.

Nice try, guy. Next time pick up your standard issue CRC Handbook and post something relevant instead of quoting a Wikipedia entry written by an eight grade chemistry class conducting a classroom experiment.

Oh, and btw, Sodium Calcium Alginate is safe and edible.


Oleyl fatty alcohol coming from inedible beef fat thickener

Sarcosin, crystalline nitrogenous substance, formed in the decomposition of creatin

Guar Gum, another thickening agent

Triethanolamine, pH balancer in cosmetic preparations in a variety of different products

Calcium Sulfate, Fragrance, Calcium Chloride,
Fumaric Acid, Boric Acid, pH adjustment

More of the same here. All of these are relatively benign chemicals that are used in the majority of household cosmetics, some naturally occurring and some man-made. These are all apt to make you sick if you EAT a large quantity of it, but not the type of chemicals that will give you a reaction unless you're specifically allergic to them already. For that matter, most of these are recognized as being beneficial for the skin, and to promote healing and regrowth of damaged skin. The "organic" (ie, "healthier") substitutes that have been tried out for the last few years have shown to cause more reactions in people than their "synthetic" counterparts, which is why the majority of cosmetic companies still use them. For example, I can think of several people on this board that have had reactions to Eucalyptus oil, but not a one that has ever had a reaction to Triethanolamine, which it is supposed to replace.

What I see here is somebody up in arms over the inclusion of Dihydrogen Monoxide. :lol:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi1LU45Nip0[/YOUTUBE]
 
If it is in 99% of the products we use, whats one more?

hmmmm... a hair bit over 99% I guess.


fwiw... (in broad terms)...

organic chemistry = the study of carbon containing molecules

inorganic chemistry = the study of non-carbon containing molecules

biochemistry = the study of molecules in/created by/used in living organisms and also the effects of said molecules on said organisms.
 
I'm not even going to get into this, but if you'll do a search here you'll find many chats about the different types of alcohols used in aftershaves and such, and to state that Denatured alcohol is basically Vodka really makes me question why someone would have the gall to say that they practice chemistry for a living.

in for a penny....

Any chemist or even chemistry student will tell you that "alcohol" really refers to an entire class of organic molecules all of which share the common feature of an "-OH" group. Some alcohols make a lovely martini, others will kill you. "Alcohol" as listed on cosmetics, etc. is a general term for that class of chemicals, not necessarily a statement that said product contains *drinking* alcohol.

As it is a class descriptor, "alcohol" in a product may or may not be drying to your skin as it depends on what specific alcohol is being referred to.
 
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Choose wisely :lol:
 
Maybe it's just me, but if you don't like something because of its ingredients, shouldn't you just not use it and sort of leave it alone?
 
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