The day the music died

**ouch** · 02-03-2009, 04:41 AM

50 years ago today.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqTdgrpffug[/YOUTUBE]

(Anyone who puts in a Madonna version as a tribute will be banned.

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**jlander** · 02-03-2009, 05:00 AM

A tremendous amount of potential went down in that plane.

**Jim** · 02-03-2009, 05:36 AM

Thanks for that Ouch.

**SRock** · 02-03-2009, 05:47 AM

This was well before my time, but I know the subjects of this song well. Anyone who thinks that their music wasn't in some way touched by Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens needs to rethink their knowledge of music. It was a nice tribute by Don McLean.

Thank you for posting this!

**Aevum** · 02-03-2009, 06:29 AM

yea, unfortunatly, slowly music died from different causes, but thats one of the major places, along with the introduction of the CD and Autotune,

**thirdeye** · 02-03-2009, 06:41 AM

Boy doesn't that make me feel old...gzzzzz, thanks Jay!!!...

**rabidpotatochip** · 02-03-2009, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Aevum

yea, unfortunatly, slowly music died from different causes, but thats one of the major places, along with the introduction of the CD and Autotune,

Cart Master: Bring out your dead!
RIAA: Here's one.
Cart Master: Ninepence.
Music: I'm not dead!
Cart Master: What?
RIAA: Nothing. Here's your ninepence.
Music: I'm not dead!
Cart Master:'Ere. He says he's not dead!
RIAA: Yes, he is.
Music: I'm not!
Cart Master: He isn't?
RIAA: Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.
Music: I'm getting better!
RIAA: No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.
Cart Master: Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
Music: I don't want to go on the cart!
RIAA: Oh, don't be such a baby.
Cart Master: I can't take him.
Music: I feel fine!
RIAA: Well, do us a favour.
Cart Master: I can't.
RIAA: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
Cart Master: No, I've got to go to the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
RIAA: Well, when's your next round?
Cart Master: Thursday.
Music: I think I'll go for a walk.
RIAA: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn't there something you can do?
Music: [singing] I feel happy. I feel happy.
*thud*
RIAA: Ah, thanks very much.
Cart Master: Not at all. See you on Thursday.

I'm curious how the introduction of the CD was a factor in killing music. If anything, I think it's the mass commercialization of music that's killing it. Most of the music people are exposed to these days is the aural equivalent of a "burger" from McDonald's, but there's still a lot of music worth listening to out there, you just have to shut off your radio.

Originally Posted by thirdeye

Boy doesn't that make me feel old...gzzzzz, thanks Jay!!!...

Old? Like 40?

**slcsteve** · 02-03-2009, 08:33 AM

I was 16 years old when the plane went down - I don't feel old, I'm there and still wonder where the years went. Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and J.P. Richardson died in the crash but Waylon Jennings and Dion DiMucci didn't make that flight. Some would say that things have a way of balancing - some would say.

**CapeCodJay** · 02-03-2009, 08:39 AM

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRwGxswYcJk[/YOUTUBE]

For those not familar with the story a nice video with some of the details.

**slcsteve** · 02-03-2009, 08:40 AM

Don McLean then......

Don McLean now.......

Now go look in the mirror.

**Mr. Clean** · 02-03-2009, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by rabidpotatochip

Cart Master: Bring out your dead!
RIAA: Here's one.
Cart Master: Ninepence.
Music: I'm not dead!
Cart Master: What?
RIAA: Nothing. Here's your ninepence.
Music: I'm not dead!
Cart Master:'Ere. He says he's not dead!
RIAA: Yes, he is.
Music: I'm not!
Cart Master: He isn't?
RIAA: Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.
Music: I'm getting better!
RIAA: No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.
Cart Master: Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
Music: I don't want to go on the cart!
RIAA: Oh, don't be such a baby.
Cart Master: I can't take him.
Music: I feel fine!
RIAA: Well, do us a favour.
Cart Master: I can't.
RIAA: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
Cart Master: No, I've got to go to the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
RIAA: Well, when's your next round?
Cart Master: Thursday.
Music: I think I'll go for a walk.
RIAA: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn't there something you can do?
Music: [singing] I feel happy. I feel happy.
*thud*
RIAA: Ah, thanks very much.
Cart Master: Not at all. See you on Thursday.

Ahhhh, greatness indeed!

American Pie Over 3 minutes, too long for today's robotic radio stations. I really miss '70s FM stations.

**Doc4** · 02-03-2009, 09:52 AM

My father (no Buddy Holly fan) once opined that Don Maclean's song about Buddy Holly was better than anything that Buddy Holly actually sang.

Then again, it IS a pretty fantastic song ...

**slcsteve** · 02-03-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Doc4

My father (no Buddy Holly fan) once opined that Don Maclean's song about Buddy Holly was better than anything that Buddy Holly actually sang.

Then again, it IS a pretty fantastic song ...

Starry, Starry Night as well.

We were driving around the south of France a few years ago and spent a few days in Saint-Remy where Van Gogh resided at Saint-Paul-de-Mausole asylum. It's interesting that McLean used two entirely different subjects for his songs - Buddy Holly and Vincent Van Gogh.

**homebrewer** · 02-03-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by CapeCodJay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRwGxswYcJk

For those not familar with the story a nice video with some of the details.

Thanks for posting that!! I never knew what the song was about, but never thought they lyrics made much sense. Now I like it even more... I really like Buddy Holly and Ritchie Valens.... I never knew this part of the story. Thanks again.

**castlecraver** · 02-03-2009, 11:30 AM

You know, I never personally cared for the song, and I've always wondered that although the events were extremely tragic, if the popularity of the song actually contributed more to the longevity of people's sentimentality towards "the day the music died" and the musicians that were killed than the event itself. That's certainly not meant to be a slight to the tribute or their memory, just something that's always made me curious, having not lived through the events.

**SRock** · 02-03-2009, 05:32 PM

Sampling killed music. Take any rap or R&B song and you are almost guaranteed to hear bits and pieces of someone else's original music. It's hard to find originality in modern music and for the few who are original it's very hard to keep the club music scene from bastardizing their works.

**Bluestaco** · 02-03-2009, 05:54 PM

At some point, the hook died. That really ruined music.
That and people have no appreciation for how good music is made anymore. You can go to a club, pay a cover (!!), and watch some jerk play sampled, digitized, pre-programmed crap on a CD PLAYER all damn night while 5 worthy musicians are out of work. That kills me.
That's what happens when they cut back on music in the schools, kids!

**norman931** · 02-03-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by castlecraver

You know, I never personally cared for the song, and I've always wondered that although the events were extremely tragic, if the popularity of the song actually contributed more to the longevity of people's sentimentality towards "the day the music died" and the musicians that were killed than the event itself. That's certainly not meant to be a slight to the tribute or their memory, just something that's always made me curious, having not lived through the events.

Well Pat, isn't that the very definition of a ballad? I thought you were a Bard!

Actually, I've always thought it hyperbolic to say the music died that day, as the 60s were a great time for lovers of good music. But, ah, poetic license and all that!

Question from a 14-year old girl today:

Was Buddy Holly a girl?
No.
So why is the song about MISS American Pie?

My answer: Don't try to make sense of 70s song lyrics!

**Antique Hoosier** · 02-03-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by norman931

My answer: Don't try to make sense of 70s song lyrics!

Jeremiah was a bullfrog
Was a good friend of mine
I never understood a single word he said
But I helped him a-drink his wine
And he always had some mighty fine wine

[youtube]KNStJrfsb5I[/youtube]

**norman931** · 02-03-2009, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Antique Hoosier

Jeremiah was a bullfrog
Was a good friend of mine
I never understood a single word he said
But I helped him a-drink his wine
And he always had some mighty fine wine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFypAB7nYGA

Classic! Songs like that made our generation what it is today!