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    Red face Franz Swaty?

    G'day all.
    I have a Franz Swaty hone and I have a few questions about it. Im curious about its reputation (if any). It appears to be very fine, so a touch up hone perhaps? Although the translated description on the inside of the box it came in states that it will cut fast with good feedback. Also should it be used dry?
    Any info would be much appreciated
    Thanks

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    The swaty is a very good stone. its what's known as a barbers hone and is designed as a touch up stone. You can use it dry or with water or with some shaving cream. They usually come with a designation like 3 line or 2 line.

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    ^ What he said. I often finish hone on a Swaty. One of my top favorites. It's also harder to lap than many other barber hones, but well worth doing.
    S.

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    Thank you both.
    A couple more questions!
    Should i use the side with the engraving on it or the other "plain" side? I'm kind of assuming the plain side as it offers more surface area. Also, would 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper be ok to lapp it? I work in a glass factory so nice thick plate glass is no problem to come by.
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    That is a three line.
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    It looks like you have some chips there. You want to be careful because they could damage your razor. I have the same hone and have never had to lap it though I really don't use it. I would use the other side if its in better shape.

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    All hones work more efficiently when lapped. I've always used diamond plates for lapping the harder barber hones. Thick plate glass should be flat enough to work well w wet/dry paper. Swatys are pretty hard and 325 grit or so will lap it faster. 600 or even 1200, once its flat, will smooth up the tactile feedback while honing. Remember to chamfer the edges after lapping.

    The "logo" side might be ok (used cautiously), more so on the far long side edge which looks less chipped. As already stated, I would also prefer to use the back side if it is less chipped.
    S.

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    Cool cool.
    Thank you all for your help
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    There is a lot argument about franz swaty.they have different grits and not all the same.
    The stone which you are showing in picture do have 3 lines written but it is not actually 3 line franz swaty hone.
    Actual 3 line franz swaty does act same as 4 k norton.
    There is couple more 3 line swaty's out there american ,German etc.German 3 line swaty is the lowest girt one.
    I do understand most of you will confuse with this post but i want you guys understand reality.i will post real 3 line swaty and 3 line written swaty+2 line written swaty.
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    A "Swaty" hone that is labeled "The Swaty" is not a Swaty hone. The same is true for any hone that is labeled "Three Line." Both are clones of a Swaty made by one of the numerous companies that took advantage of the popularity of the Swaty hone by making hones that looked like them and sometimes even used the Swaty name on their labels.

    Some of them are just as good as Swaty hones and some are not as good, but they are not Swaty hones.

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    So Swaty became a generic name for a barber hone like hoover for a vacuum cleaner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    A "Swaty" hone that is labeled "The Swaty" is not a Swaty hone. The same is true for any hone that is labeled "Three Line." Both are clones of a Swaty made by one of the numerous companies that took advantage of the popularity of the Swaty hone by making hones that looked like them and sometimes even used the Swaty name on their labels.

    Some of them are just as good as Swaty hones and some are not as good, but they are not Swaty hones.

    d'oh!

    I just picked up two "Franz Swaty Three Line Razor Hone". ("Three Line" being the middle line.)

    Thankfully I only paid like $7.50 for the pair. One has some bad pitting, the other seems ok.

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    I was going to buy a swaty online but I don't know much about them since I use my coticule and BBW for honing. If I were to get one, is the two line one that reads

    "FRANZ SWATY
    Marburg-Austria"

    Any good? The one I saw was of a lightish brown color not grey or dark like ones I have seen before.

    any info would be great.
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    Mine Says

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    Since the last time I posted in this thread I have lapped the hone with 600 grit wet/dry, it was virtually flat to start with and have used it on 3 straights in various states of sharpness. It is a very fine stone and my sharpest razor was sharper, but just. The duller ones got 50 odd strokes each with very little improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disburden View Post
    I was going to buy a swaty online but I don't know much about them since I use my coticule and BBW for honing. If I were to get one, is the two line one that reads

    "FRANZ SWATY
    Marburg-Austria"

    Any good? The one I saw was of a lightish brown color not grey or dark like ones I have seen before.

    any info would be great.
    Yes. It's good. That is a Swaty two line hone. See if you can figure out why!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    Yes. It's good. That is a Swaty two line hone. See if you can figure out why!
    Are you saying that the number of "lines" has nothing to do with the grit of the hone but how much detail was given on it's origin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavantStrike View Post
    Are you saying that the number of "lines" has nothing to do with the grit of the hone but how much detail was given on it's origin?
    That is correct. I think the three line was made by the father and the two line by the son but I'm not certain that my recollection is correct. There is very little difference between the two line and the three line but most seem to believe the three line is better. In my experience, there is no discernible difference.

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