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    for those of you whom have antique rifles what have you got? mines a mosin nagant m24. finish matched. my grandma told me my great uncle was in korea and got it from a sniper he shot. i cant really hit anything with it well but it sure is a blast to fire. turns heads just about as well as my .44 mag at the range
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    M1 Garand
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    Quote Originally Posted by PCFiend138 View Post
    for those of you whom have antique rifles what have you got? mines a mosin nagant m24. finish matched. my grandma told me my great uncle was in korea and got it from a sniper he shot. i cant really hit anything with it well but it sure is a blast to fire. turns heads just about as well as my .44 mag at the range
    Never heard of a Mosin Nagant M24. There are 4 types of mosins. There are the model 91's, the 91/30's, the M38's and the M44's. The 91's predate the Bolshevik Revolution. The 91/30's were an upgrade to the 91's first made in 1930. The M38's are a carbine version of the 91/30. It does not have a bayonet. The M44 is the same as the M38 except that it has an integral folding bayonet on it. How big is the rifle? Is it a carbine or not. Carbines being shorter versions. If it is then check the date stamp on the receiver. If it has a date of 44 or higher and has a bayonet then it's an M44. If not then it's an M38.
    And yes I do have a mosin, it's an M44.

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    K98 Mauser
    Mosin-Nagant M44
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    I think that's about it for oldies

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayH View Post
    Never heard of a Mosin Nagant M24. There are 4 types of mosins. There are the model 91's, the 91/30's, the M38's and the M44's. The 91's predate the Bolshevik Revolution. The 91/30's were an upgrade to the 91's first made in 1930. The M38's are a carbine version of the 91/30. It does not have a bayonet. The M44 is the same as the M38 except that it has an integral folding bayonet on it. How big is the rifle? Is it a carbine or not. Carbines being shorter versions. If it is then check the date stamp on the receiver. If it has a date of 44 or higher and has a bayonet then it's an M44. If not then it's an M38.
    And yes I do have a mosin, it's an M44.
    Best source for information about Mosin Nagant rifles in web http://www.mosinnagant.net/

    Actually there is a model m91/24, russian rifles rebarreled in Finland for the Finnish Civil Guard. http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/M24-Rifle.asp

    I personally have m39 rifle made in Finland
    http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/f..._nagantm39.asp

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    Nothing antique, per se, though my Palma rifle is built on an 03-A3 action. I have shot my National Match AR15 (see my avatar) in one 1,000 yard event at Benning. Normally I just shoot across-the-course (200, 300, and 600 yards). Everything else is just modern defense and hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suomäki View Post
    Best source for information about Mosin Nagant rifles in web http://www.mosinnagant.net/

    Actually there is a model m91/24, russian rifles rebarreled in Finland for the Finnish Civil Guard. http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/M24-Rifle.asp

    I personally have m39 rifle made in Finland
    http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/f..._nagantm39.asp
    cool, I learned something new. now, is his gun a m24 or an m44?

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    Through the Civilian Marksmanship Program, I recently acquired a service grade M1 Garand. I've always wanted one, and I finally got one.

    I really enjoy going to the range with this rifle. It's all steel, wood, and durable function. I'm no super marksman with it, but I get pretty good results with iron sights and my fading eyesight. It's one of the best purchases I've ever made!

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    My 1903A3 is my most accurate rifle.
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    its a finish civil guard m91/24, so its a m91 that was rebuilt. mine was built with the german contract so it has a bohler-stahl barrel which puts the production date between 1924 and 1928. my particular rifle has definitely been around the block. ive spent hours at www.7.62x54r.net identifying all the parts on it. some are are from original russian m91 and some were added in the 60s-70s. if youre interested in mosins that site is awesome. i havent found any site, book whatever with more information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayH View Post
    Never heard of a Mosin Nagant M24. There are 4 types of mosins. There are the model 91's, the 91/30's, the M38's and the M44's. The 91's predate the Bolshevik Revolution. The 91/30's were an upgrade to the 91's first made in 1930. The M38's are a carbine version of the 91/30. It does not have a bayonet. The M44 is the same as the M38 except that it has an integral folding bayonet on it. How big is the rifle? Is it a carbine or not. Carbines being shorter versions. If it is then check the date stamp on the receiver. If it has a date of 44 or higher and has a bayonet then it's an M44. If not then it's an M38.
    And yes I do have a mosin, it's an M44.
    I don't own any type of Mosin, but I believe the M24 (aka Lotta rifle) is the Finnish version of the rifle. A half dozen other numbered models appear to have been produced in addition to the well known ones cited:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin-Nagant
    http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/default.asp

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    No.1 MkIII SMLE (Small Magazine Lee Enfield) Made in Lithgow Australia 1942 matching serial numbers. Real piece of Australian Military History.
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    AH yes...the classics.

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    Lot's of nice Rifles listed here. We may all still be lucky to own them in a few years (at least those of us who live in the U.S.A.):

    Obama Selects Janet Reno's Anti-Gun Point Man As Next Attorney General

    I hope nothing that drastic happens, but you never know.

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    You will notice that the rifles listed as most accurate shooters have the best sights on them. The Mauser 98s are excellent rifles, but the sights are lousy. The Finn's when rebuilding, used an improved sight picture over the already good Russian one. The later peep sights found on the Enfields, 03A3s and Garands are much better.
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    I don't own any antiques, but I have been looking at getting a mauser or mosin nagant. My biggest fear is that I'll get one covered in Cosmoline. I have no idea how to remove that stuff. I thought I had heard you could disassemble a rifle and boil the parts to clean them, but I don't have a container big enough to boil a barrel. Has anyone ever bought an older rifle coated in Cosmoline? How did you remove the gunk?

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    miza, cleaning cosmoline is not too bad. I've done a LOT of them over the years. Get some old rags and odorless mineral spirits. Wipe the outside down first, several times, then using a disasembly guide from www.surplusrifle.com or another good site, strip the rifle down and scrub some more. It will take an hour or so, but it's not hard at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconKC View Post
    miza, cleaning cosmoline is not too bad. I've done a LOT of them over the years. Get some old rags and odorless mineral spirits. Wipe the outside down first, several times, then using a disasembly guide from www.surplusrifle.com or another good site, strip the rifle down and scrub some more. It will take an hour or so, but it's not hard at all.
    +1 It's not nearly as bad as it sounds. There are also several Citrus based gun cleaners on the market. Many are safe for use on wood as well. Just Google and reasearch, there's plenty of affordable options out there and like Deac said it won't take long at all.

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    I have an m44 and it is pretty accurate. The bulk surplus fmj you can get online is cheap and great.

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    It ain't old, but I absolutely love my Springfield M1A with its beautiful wood stock... Put 200 rounds through it today -- good times. I understand why people want to collect antique firearms but my interest is a little more practical. No room for collector's items that would not see range time :)
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