Tape when honing?

[Pahlavan_se15]

Hi All,

If using electrical tabe when honing, do I need to use it when stropping too? I understand it is used to prevent hone wear, and stropping doesnt cause hone wear, but should it still be used to maintain degree of angle change?

Regards

Danny

[mdunn]

regular pre-shave strop: nope. but i think you might if youre using a pasted strop to refresh the edge. ill let someone else pick that up

[Thebigspendur]

I've never heard of using tape with a pasted strop so for normal stropping you would not need tape. Really, unless the spine has some ornate decoration on it you want to protect or your going to be doing alot of honing or you have a double bevel there's no reason to use tape anyway.

[Pahlavan_se15]

Thanks guys

[heavydutysg135]

There are two other threads on the topic in the first page of the honing section:

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=64762

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=65308

[heavydutysg135]

Here is another thread on the topic:
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...highlight=tape

[cityjim]

Interesting question from the OP.

My opinion and findings are if you start using tape then you must continue. This includes stropping . All in effort to "preserve the bevel angle". That means you must shave with the tape on also.

AND if you add tape you must recut the bevel. Meaning start all over with the bevel at a breadknife level.

I later experimented by adding one layer of tape on 6 razors with NO bevel reset. Razors were so-so sharp and never shaved like they "did" before the tape. So if you just add tape the razor will not get shaving sharp IMO.

Tape errodes and the bevel angle changes.... Back to square one. So leave the tape in the drawer.

cityjim

[mainaman]

no need of tape while stropping.

[mainaman]

Interesting question from the OP.

My opinion and findings are if you start using tape then you must continue. This includes stropping . All in effort to "preserve the bevel angle". That means you must shave with the tape on also.

AND if you add tape you must recut the bevel. Meaning start all over with the bevel at a breadknife level.

I later experimented by adding one layer of tape on 6 razors with NO bevel reset. Razors were so-so sharp and never shaved like they "did" before the tape. So if you just add tape the razor will not get shaving sharp IMO.

Tape errodes and the bevel angle changes.... Back to square one. So leave the tape in the drawer.

cityjim

I am curious how much tape will you remove with an Escher or a Jnat? Insignificant amount.
Adding a layer of tape to already shave ready razor only creates a microbevel and should not affect how well the razor shaves.

[Disburden]

you keep the tape on for a pasted strop but normal leather stropping you don't use the tape, the leather flexes enough so it doesn't matter.

[cityjim]

I am curious how much tape will you remove with an Escher or a Jnat? Insignificant amount.
Adding a layer of tape to already shave ready razor only creates a microbevel and should not affect how well the razor shaves.

You would think anyway........ Since tape only adds about .5 to 1 degree of angle. Depending on the thickness of the tape.

The microbevel sharpness you speak of doesn't last on my beard. Also with one layer of tape you can definitely see it with a microscope. Lastly that microbevel will be at an increased angle from the original bevel if set with no tape. Meaning the edge will not be as sharp/keen as without the tape. Granted we are talking about tiny amounts here.

My beard likes a deadly keen edge. I like to shave with the sharpest blade I have. Just like everyone else here I guess. Some antique razors require every trick in the book for a good shave.


cityjim

[mainaman]

You would think anyway........ Since tape only adds about .5 to 1 degree of angle. Depending on the thickness of the tape.

The microbevel sharpness you speak of doesn't last on my beard. Also with one layer of tape you can definitely see it with a microscope. Lastly that microbevel will be at an increased angle from the original bevel if set with no tape. Meaning the edge will not be as sharp/keen as without the tape. Granted we are talking about tiny amounts here.

My beard likes a deadly keen edge. I like to shave with the sharpest blade I have. Just like everyone else here I guess. Some antique razors require every trick in the book for a good shave.


cityjim

I just do not see how honing with tape vs no tape changes anything in terms of edge?
As far as I know there is no pro or con as far as edge is concerned.
Sharp is sharp ,and I am not convinced that the difference between say 15 and 15.2 deg will matter at all.

[Woodash]

My opinion and findings are if you start using tape then you must continue. This includes stropping . All in effort to "preserve the bevel angle". That means you must shave with the tape on also.

Now, you're pulling our leg(s), right?

[richmondesi]

Now, you're pulling our leg(s), right?

Why else Zombie a 2 year old thread and say that?

[cityjim]

Why else Zombie a 2 year old thread and say that?

Wasn't aware this was a Comdey Central forum. Must of missed that one.


cityjim

[BladeRunner001]

I've never heard of using tape with a pasted strop so for normal stropping you would not need tape. Really, unless the spine has some ornate decoration on it you want to protect or your going to be doing alot of honing or you have a double bevel there's no reason to use tape anyway.

+1 . But just to keep me from remember if and when I used tape, I do use tape on all my blades (when honing, but not stropping)