What color belt?

Unit 91 · Sep 25, 2008

OldSaw said:
one in cordovan to match my shoes. My favorite is cordovan with a dark blue suit.

Cordovan isn't a color. I know... I know... everyone says it is, but it isn't. It just so happens that burgundy colors are what cordovan leather is usually dyed so the mistake is a common one.

Cor·do·van /ˈkɔrdəvən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kawr-duh-vuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
noun 1. a native or inhabitant of Córdoba, Spain.
2. (lowercase) a soft, smooth leather originally made at Córdoba of goatskin but later made also of split horsehide, pigskin, etc.
adjective 3. of Córdoba, Spain.
4. (lowercase) designating or made of cordovan.

blades said:
Socks MUST always be darker than trousers.

I agree with your other two points, but I think you can have some leeway with socks. I say it's ok to match socks to shirts or ties if you prefer. Be a bit fun with it unless it is a very formal event.

My unsolicited opinion. Value - priceless, really.

modern man · Sep 25, 2008

TimmyBoston said:
Get one of the belts with a swiveling buckle, one side is brown and the other is black. One is my primary belt and it's great, very versatile.

Bingo.

I have one myself, Dockers makes it.

But if you are going to mostly have Jeans on go with the black.

stobes21 · Sep 25, 2008

Unit 91 said:
Cordovan isn't a color. I know... I know... everyone says it is, but it isn't. It just so happens that burgundy colors are what cordovan leather is usually dyed so the mistake is a common one.

Cor·do·van /ˈkɔrdəvən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kawr-duh-vuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
noun 1. a native or inhabitant of Córdoba, Spain.
2. (lowercase) a soft, smooth leather originally made at Córdoba of goatskin but later made also of split horsehide, pigskin, etc.
adjective 3. of Córdoba, Spain.
4. (lowercase) designating or made of cordovan.

Wikipedia disagrees. The term can refer both to the specific type of leather, or to the burgundy color.

Unit 91 · Sep 25, 2008

Wikipedia isn't a dictionary.

Cordovan leather in both black and burgundy;
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonlin...Colorval=Burgundy+Cordovan&Sizeval=&Widthval=

Nice stuff, but still just the type of leather.

OldSaw · Sep 25, 2008

Unit 91 said:
Cordovan isn't a color. I know... I know... everyone says it is, but it isn't. It just so happens that burgundy colors are what cordovan leather is usually dyed so the mistake is a common one.

Cor·do·van /ˈkɔrdəvən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kawr-duh-vuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
noun 1. a native or inhabitant of Córdoba, Spain.
2. (lowercase) a soft, smooth leather originally made at Córdoba of goatskin but later made also of split horsehide, pigskin, etc.
adjective 3. of Córdoba, Spain.
4. (lowercase) designating or made of cordovan.

I agree with your other two points, but I think you can have some leeway with socks. I say it's ok to match socks to shirts or ties if you prefer. Be a bit fun with it unless it is a very formal event.

My unsolicited opinion. Value - priceless, really.

Thanks for pointing that out. I used to refer to it as burgundy but after being corrected by several people that are more fashion conscious than I am, I assimilated.

Unit 91 · Sep 25, 2008

I concede that it has become accepted nomenclature to refer to the color as 'cordovan'. I maintain it is incorrect.

Plus I'm really grumpy today.

Nancy Boy · Sep 25, 2008

TimmyBoston said:
Get one of the belts with a swiveling buckle, one side is brown and the other is black. One is my primary belt and it's great, very versatile.

An excellent idea.

But if you have to choose one color, go with black.

theperfectstorm · Sep 25, 2008

Suzuki said:
+1 to the belt matching the shoes.

Favorite WKRP in Cincinnati line:

"Can Del Murdoch, personable owner of Del's Stereo and Sound set me up with the exact stereo system I need? Well, let's take a look at you. Busy executive, on the go, drive your own personal luxury car. Your shoes match your belt, but there's a hole in your life..."

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

stevensj2 · Sep 25, 2008

I start everything off from the shoes.

Pick a shoe -> Socks a shade or two lighter -> Pants that match (no black pants + brown shoes! thats the biggest one) -> belt that is identical to shoes as possible, etc.

But you can reduce that to simply always match your belt with your shoes; depending on your outfit and what you're carrying, your other leathers should all match, and again, it should all be based off the shoes.

I also agree with it being OK to have your socks lighter than your pants, but only in the cases of wearing (non-black) dark pants. Dark blue pin-striped pants look excellent with a pair of blue socks that are patterned and a shade lighter. As long as the colors compliment rather than contrast, you'll look good.

Doc4 · Sep 25, 2008

blades said:
Socks MUST always be darker than trousers.

They say a businessman matches his socks to his pants, and a gentleman matches his socks to his mood. :wink:

Suzuki · Sep 25, 2008

Doc4 said:
They say a businessman matches his socks to his pants, and a gentleman matches his socks to his mood.

You just try wearing mauve socks with a pinstripe suit where I work!!

Doc4 · Sep 25, 2008

Suzuki said:
You just try wearing mauve socks with a pinstripe suit where I work!!

Too much Jeeves, not enough Wooster!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRbBE_DlIww&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

scottydoint · Sep 25, 2008

I always wear black. the only time I wear brown is when I rarely wear a brown pair of shoes.

blades · Sep 25, 2008

Mottern Man said:
But if you are going to mostly have Jeans on go with the black.

Nah, Black with formal attire. Burgundy or Chestnut with jeans, black is too serious and business like for jeans.

OldSaw · Sep 27, 2008

blades said:
Nah, Black with formal attire. Burgundy or Chestnut with jeans, black is too serious and business like for jeans.

I have to agree with this. When I see someone wearing a black belt with his blue jeans it looks odd and I can't help but wonder if that is the only belt he owns or he simply doesn't care.

Aevum · Sep 27, 2008

that reminds me, i have to pick up a brown belt....

Giant · Sep 27, 2008

blades said:
are you fishing for a good *** whipping with a leather belt, if so pm me, I'll be happy to lash you 100 times with my fav leather belt, and then politely ask you if you've had enough

That sounds almost kinky... but I won't go there :shocked:

Not A Nice Person · Sep 27, 2008

Unit 91 said:
Originally Posted by blades
Socks MUST always be darker than trousers.

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I agree with your other two points, but I think you can have some leeway with socks. I say it's ok to match socks to shirts or ties if you prefer. Be a bit fun with it unless it is a very formal event.

My unsolicited opinion. Value - priceless, really.

I was always told that with a suit, socks should coordinate with one's tie, not one's pants. Not that you'd wear bright red socks with a red tie, of course, but they should have a design similar to the tie's with some red IN it.

Doesn't preclude them being darker than your pants, but I think being well-dressed is a matter of little details like that, and good quality things.

NANP™

OldSaw · Sep 27, 2008

Not A Nice Person said:
I was always told that with a suit, socks should coordinate with one's tie, not one's pants. Not that you'd wear bright red socks with a red tie, of course, but they should have a design similar to the tie's with some red IN it.

Doesn't preclude them being darker than your pants, but I think being well-dressed is a matter of little details like that, and good quality things.

NANP

Some fashion savvy guys might be able to pull that off. I'll stick with socks matching pants.

ancora imparo · Dec 12, 2008

blades said:
Colour of shoes MUST always match belt.
Socks MUST always be darker than trousers.
Don't mix the colour of the bling bling, dont mix gold with silver, i.e. silver belt buckle, silver watch, etc..

This is spot on. You can wear brown appropriately, but if you HAVE to choose just one way to go: Black shoes and black belt go with everything. Sure, some apparel looks great with brown shoes/brown belt; but they would be just as acceptable with black belt/black shoes--the opposite is not necessarily true.

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