I received the zy razor in the mail today. I am limited on honing gear but I made due. I set the bevel on wet/dry sandpaper ontop of a thick piece of glass. I then went to a norton 4k. I will eventually get a 1k, but i want to get an atoma 400 to lap my stones with. After a fair amount of time on the 4k, i switched to the 8k. After that i stropped on balsa fro my poor man's strop kit from whipped dog. Then finished with the leather strop. Shaved my neck (growing beard for no shave november). And it shaved just as well as the vintage razor I got from Larry. I was pleasantly surprised!