#14 Razors

mjclark · Jul 26, 2016

I've read a lot about the #14 blanks and the very beautiful razors they create, mainly from Germany and Spain, Hoppe , Filarmonica etc (as well as the joker in the pack Japanese King Pelican #14).

I have now acquired a #14 from Terry of Sheffield and I haven't seen a Sheffield #14 before.
It 15/16 extra hollow (pics to follow).

So presumably Terry imported the blanks from Germany and ground them in Sheffield.

So has anybody seen Sheffield #14s before?

And this razor has got me so interested...

...What else do we know about the majestic #14s?

BSAGuy · Jul 26, 2016

Marcus. You know we must have pics!

6Cuda6 · Jul 26, 2016

Yes pics please....im curious now too....lol.

mjclark · Jul 26, 2016

BSAGuy said:
Marcus. You know we must have pics!

6Cuda6 said:
Yes pics please....im curious now too....lol.

As soon as I get home I'll put up some photos....

Bad_B · Jul 26, 2016

Well, you summed up my knowledge of #14s, blanks used by many manufacturers with the number 14 stamped on them. Ive been keeping an eye out for a Graef & Schmidt stamped 14 by JA Henckles to replace a blade in my 7 day set that was too far gone for Alfredo to salvage. Im curious to see if anyone can shed more light on the subject.

mjclark · Jul 26, 2016

Here's the Sheffield #14:

mjclark · Jul 28, 2016

Shaved with the Terry this morning and it was quite something:

I really like extra hollows and the shave with this was superb.
It's a big heavy thing eh?
I ended up resting my shaving arm on my other firearm for stability and this technique worked very well.

jlindy · Jul 28, 2016

mjclark said:
I ended up resting my shaving arm on my other firearm for stability and this technique worked very well.

Well yes... There's no end to the possibilities when you threaten that sort of violence! :laugh:

mjclark · Jul 28, 2016

jlindy said:
Well yes... There's no end to the possibilities when you threaten that sort of violence!

Ha ha - this autocorrect needs attention.
Please read "forearm" [emoji3]

jlindy · Jul 28, 2016

mjclark said:
Ha ha - this autocorrect needs attention.
Please read "forearm" [emoji3]

It actually works better 'as is' :lol:

efsk · Jul 28, 2016

Haven't seen the "14" stamped in that place before.
As far as we know, the "14" blanks were all made by Herkenrath in Solingen Germany. They also owned the Ben Hur DEbrand, and later purchased Apollo. The blanks were sold to a large number of razormakers in Germany, France and Spain, and apparently England. These razormakers decided the grind and and tempered the steel, so also the hardness.
The "14" stands for the size: they were intended to be 7/8 razors although quite a lot of them reach 8/8.
I have a number of "14"s, German and Spanish, and they all shave terrific. Quite interesting, since some of the properties that are decisive for the shave are decided upon by a lot of different razormakers.

mjclark · Jul 28, 2016

efsk said:
Haven't seen the "14" stamped in that place before.
As far as we know, the "14" blanks were all made by Herkenrath in Solingen Germany. They also owned the Ben Hur DEbrand, and later purchased Apollo. The blanks were sold to a large number of razormakers in Germany, France and Spain, and apparently England. These razormakers decided the grind and and tempered the steel, so also the hardness.
The "14" stands for the size: they were intended to be 7/8 razors although quite a lot of them reach 8/8.
I have a number of "14"s, German and Spanish, and they all shave terrific. Quite interesting, since some of the properties that are decisive for the shave are decided upon by a lot of different razormakers.

Thanks! That's such useful and interesting information.

When were these blanks made?
I'd guess the Terry is from the 1920's..

efsk · Jul 29, 2016

They've been made over quite a long period of time, judging from the fact that Filarmonica made "14"razors from the early 1900's well into the 1970's.

mjclark · Jul 29, 2016

efsk said:
They've been made over quite a long period of time, judging from the fact that Filarmonica made "14"razors from the early 1900's well into the 1970's.

Thanks again.

These really are a classic design and I understand why people collect them.

The Terry #14 feels really good in the hand, especially with the double jimps.

drifter · Jul 29, 2016

I think there's some info about the blanks on the "Love me some 14's" thread.
Here's some of mine.

Kentos · Jul 30, 2016

Wow the grind looks paper thin!

mjclark · Jul 30, 2016

drifter said:
I think there's some info about the blanks on the "Love me some 14's" thread.
Here's some of mine.
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Super cool! All those #14s look great line that!
Do you have a link to that "Love me some 14's" thread cos I can't find it in search?

Kentos said:
Wow the grind looks paper thin!

Yes it sings!

drifter · Jul 31, 2016

mjclark said:
Super cool! All those #14s look great line that!
Do you have a link to that "Love me some 14's" thread cos I can't find it in search?

Me neither, but I know it's on here somewhere.

efsk · Jul 31, 2016

Here you go

mjclark · Jul 31, 2016

efsk said:
Here you go

That's great - thanks [emoji3]
A whole lot of gorgeous blades there.

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