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OldSaw

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...If this still persists get yourself a churchwarden style. They have a longer stem and this cools the flow down they also give you excellent style points.

Do they still make these? I heard there was only one production facility for them and they were shutting down. I have always wanted one but have not smoked a pipe in about 20 years.

I was thinking of clay pipes. Anyway, a little research has lead me to wish I had bought a few 25 years ago, but I guess I can still find one if I want.
 

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I found an old pic I posted here awhile back.
 

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Clay Pipes are nice but they break very easily. Churchwardens are still made, I bout a Savinelli Hans Christen Anderson model some years ago but my tobacconist still stocks them.

I do not recommend clay unless you are going to be sitting on an easy chair and not moving.

If you want to get off cheap on the tobacco try Borkum Riff. You can usually pick it at any local market. It tastes ok and smokes ok.
 
While I normally smoke cigars, my meerschaums get occasional use. There is one reserved just for the latakia blends, btw. Ouch's pic reminds me that I must try some of the Pease blends.

Wayne
 
I love pipe smoking. I had not touched tobacco in 20 years when I took up cigars. After a couple years (and the cigar boom) I turned to pipes as a cheaper and more enjoyable pastime. The nice thing about pipes is that they are enjoyed by those around you as well. My allergies are kicking hard, and I have not smoked in a few weeks, I had no physical withdrawals, a big plus in my book. Plus pipe smokers live longer. :001_smile
 
If you want to get off cheap on the tobacco try Borkum Riff. You can usually pick it at any local market. It tastes ok and smokes ok.

YMMV and all that, but I've found borkum riff to be full of extra flavoring and smokes wet (gurgling, etc.). If you want cheap I'd think it better to get carter Hall or Prince Albert. Of course your best bet is to go to a real tobacco shop and get better stuff (you can get good stuff sold in bulk so price is not much of an issue). I would recommend a non-aromatic smoke (like a straight virginia or a virginia/perique blend) to start with as, IMHO, they are just so very much better in terms of taste and quality (I should also mention that tobacco that smells really good rarely tastes as good...usually much worse..."room note" and taste are completely different animals).
 
For those who don't yet smoke, best advice is: don't start. Pipes are theoretically less likely to give you cancer; but in practice you're several hundred percent more likely to get cancer if you smoke pipes than if you don't smoke at all.

That said, as a (former) long-time smoker, I absolutely loved my pipes. Meerschaum were my favourite: a cool smoke, a craftsman-style bowl (Peterson's of Dublin were my favourites!), and fantastic for relaxing with. A major benefit is that the vast majority of people (in my experience) actually enjoy the smell of pipe tobacco; entirely the opposite to views about cigarette tobacco.

For anyone starting out, best advice is to buy the best pipe you can afford. Buying a cheap pipe is false economy: when you can't get it to stay lit, or you burn your tongue, or you get too much dottle (the gooey residue at the bottom of the pipe), you'll wonder whether it's you or the pipe that's at fault. Just like straight razors, a pipe takes a while to become accustomed to. But if you're going to smoke anything, a pipe is more satisfying than any other means of taking tobacco smoke. IMHO!
 

OldSaw

The wife's investment
...Plus pipe smokers live longer. :001_smile

For those who don't yet smoke, best advice is: don't start. Pipes are theoretically less likely to give you cancer; but in practice you're several hundred percent more likely to get cancer if you smoke pipes than if you don't smoke at all.

OK, so which is it? There was at least one surgeon general study that suggested the former.
 
OK, so which is it? There was at least one surgeon general study that suggested the former.

I just did a search on this, and it is a mixed bag. I have read a myriad of studies that say pipe smokers are anywhere from 100% to 500% more likely to get cancer than non-smokers, but male pipe smokers have a longer life expectancy than non-smokers, I am not sure what the heck that means.
 
I just did a search on this, and it is a mixed bag. I have read a myriad of studies that say pipe smokers are anywhere from 100% to 500% more likely to get cancer than non-smokers, but male pipe smokers have a longer life expectancy than non-smokers, I am not sure what the heck that means.

I guess it may mean that, if you're lucky enough not to get cancer, then you're likely to live longer than non-smokers. Which may, of course, simply mean that your resistance to cancer is so good that you'd live a hell of a long time in any case. Or am I just being cynical?!
 
In terms of quality, they are night and day. In terms of nicotine, they both got it and smoking a pipe could jones you up for a cigarette. Make certain this is what you want to do.

Couldn't agree more. You kicked a nasty habit. I did the same fifteen years ago, and I still want a cigarette every day. What do you need a new bad habit for?
 
I just did a search on this, and it is a mixed bag. I have read a myriad of studies that say pipe smokers are anywhere from 100% to 500% more likely to get cancer than non-smokers, but male pipe smokers have a longer life expectancy than non-smokers, I am not sure what the heck that means.

Long Version

Here's my totally opinionated and unscientific take on this, which, lazily, will not be supported by stats. :rolleyes: I agree that there is no point in arguing the fact that smokers of any type are at higher risk for cancer(s). Here's the thing, though. I think that it depends on what you're smoking, how you smoke, and how often.

Example 1, the cigarette smoker. 2-3 packs a day, inhales. Higher risk of lung, oral, and esophogeal cancers, heart disease, emph---you've all seen the surgeon general warnings and know the drill.

Example 2, the pipe/cigar/hookah smoker. (In my case for cigars) 4-5 cigars a month, not inhaling. Yes, I'm at a higher risk by X percentage points for developing oral and or esophogeal cancers, but when the odds are presumably low in comparison to other killers, even doubling the risk factor probably puts me at less risk than someone living a smoke-free life in LA (smog) is at for developing lung cancer.

Short Version

The male pipe/cigar smoker lives longer because the stress relief gained through such a pleasurable hobby is outweighing the negatives associated with pipe and cigar use. :lol:

YMMV.
 
Long Version

Here's my totally opinionated and unscientific take on this, which, lazily, will not be supported by stats. :rolleyes: I agree that there is no point in arguing the fact that smokers of any type are at higher risk for cancer(s). Here's the thing, though. I think that it depends on what you're smoking, how you smoke, and how often.

Example 1, the cigarette smoker. 2-3 packs a day, inhales. Higher risk of lung, oral, and esophogeal cancers, heart disease, emph---you've all seen the surgeon general warnings and know the drill.

Example 2, the pipe/cigar/hookah smoker. (In my case for cigars) 4-5 cigars a month, not inhaling. Yes, I'm at a higher risk by X percentage points for developing oral and or esophogeal cancers, but when the odds are presumably low in comparison to other killers, even doubling the risk factor probably puts me at less risk than someone living a smoke-free life in LA (smog) is at for developing lung cancer.

Short Version

The male pipe/cigar smoker lives longer because the stress relief gained through such a pleasurable hobby is outweighing the negatives associated with pipe and cigar use. :lol:

YMMV.


I agree completely...supposedly the relaxation factor helps you live longer (stress reduction and all that). Also, I have read in several places that if one smokes 1 to 2 pipes a day and does not inhale, the risks are the same as a non-smoker. Furthermore, risks for oral cancer (the only big issue with non-inhaled pipe smoke) can be minimized by not consuming acohol while smoking, drinking water while smoking (preventing mouth from drying out), and not holding the pipe in the same spot (avoiding a single spot of your mouth being constantly bombarded by hot smoke). The low-risk aspect, though, does not hold up if you smoke cigarettes as well 9or, as I have read, if you have EVER smoked cigarettes--presumably because the data is confounded...that is, if you get sick, they don't know if it is from present pipe smoking or past cigarette smoking).

I completely agree with Lynchmeister in that one is at a FAR greater risk living in a heavily polluted city (e.g., LA) to get cancer from car exhaust...but the antis don't want to give up their precious cars so they pin it on a scapegoat.

SHORT VERSION: there are plenty of ways to die and pipe smoking has not been found to be that great of a risk (if one does it in moderation).
 

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I did a stress test recently. Midway through a particularly grueling part of the treadmill, I pulled out a cigar, stuck it betwixt my teeth, and in total deadpan seriousness said to my doctor, "Got a light, pal?" :tongue_sm
 
I did a stress test recently. Midway through a particularly grueling part of the treadmill, I pulled out a cigar, stuck it betwixt my teeth, and in total deadpan seriousness said to my doctor, "Got a light, pal?" :tongue_sm


you must see my doctor as well...Doctor Vinnie Boom Botz
 

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My doctor tells me that he has a ton of patients, but I'm the only one he doesn't know how to talk to. He also says he tells my "request for viagra" story to all of his colleagues, and they love it.
 
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I was not a fan of the corn cob, get a 20 dollar briar.

1. Cigs taste nasty, pipes do not.
2. Congrats on quiting smoking. Not that pilpe smoking is great for you either but much better then what Cigs will do.
 
I was not a fan of the corn cob, get a 20 dollar briar.

1. Cigs taste nasty, pipes do not.
2. Congrats on quiting smoking. Not that pilpe smoking is great for you either but much better then what Cigs will do.

Just be warned, you'll eliminate yourself from employment at the Cleveland Clinic.
 
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