Taylor's ingredient list?

[nine inch razors]

I looked but could not find an ingredient list for the Taylor creams online. I would really appreciate it if someone who happens to have a tub of it could post the ingredients if they have the time to. I don't need a specific one, I just need the base ingredients present in all of them. I just don't feel comfortable ordering something that could have animal ingredients since I am vegan. Thanks for the help guys! I love the site!

[cymric]

You can't establish from the ingredients themselves whether they were derived from plants or animals. My suggestion would be to contact the producer directly. Good luck!

[nine inch razors]

Thanks for checking man, much appreciated. Since I bought one of their brushes I'll just email them and ask.

[TimothyEdwards]

Here are the ingredients if they can help you:

Almond
Aqua (water), Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Benzaldehyde, Triethanolamine, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylparaben, Propylparaben.

Avocado
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Parfum, Triethanolamine, Sodium Hydroxide, Persea Gratissima, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, CI 19140 (Parfum Contains: Benzyl Salicylate, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Citronellol, Geraniol).

Eton College
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Parfum, Triethanolamine, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, (Parfum Contains: Benzyl Salicylate, Eugenol, Geraniol, Hexyl Cinnamaldehyde, Linalool, 2-(4-Tert-Butylbenzyl) Propionaldehyde, D-Limonene).

Lemon & Lime
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Parfum, Triethanolamine, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, CI 19140 (Parfum Contains: Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Citral, Citronellol, Coumarin, Eugenol, Geraniol, Isoeugenol, Lomonene, Linalool).

Mr Taylor's
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Triethanolamine, Parfum, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylparaben, Propyl Paraben, CI 42090, CI 19140, CI 17200 (Parfum Contains: Linalool, Citronellol, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Hexyl Cinnamal, Limonene, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone).

Rose
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Triethanolamine, Sodium Hydroxide, Parfum, Methylparaben, Propyl Paraben, CI 17200 (Parfum Contains: Citronellol, Geraniol, Cinnamyl Alcohol, Linalool, Citral, Limonene).

Sandalwood
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Parfum, Triethanolamine, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylparaben, Propyl Paraben, CI 42090, CI 19140, CI 17200 (Parfum Contains: Benzyl Benzoate, Benzyl Cinnamate, Benzyl Salicylate, Citronellol, Geraniol, Linalool, Evernia Prunastri, Evernia Furfuracea, D-Limonene).

Shaving Shop
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Triethanolamine, Sodium Hydroxide, Parfum, Methylparaben, Propyl Paraben, (Parfum Contains: Benzyl Salicylate, Linalool, Limonene, Amyl Cinnamal, Hexyl Cinnamal, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Butylphenyl Methylpropional).

St James
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Coconut Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Glycerin, Triethanolamine, Parfum, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, (Parfum Contains: Benzyl Salicylate, Citral, Citronellol, Eugenol, Geraniol, Hexyl Cinnamaldehyde, Linalool, 2-(4-Tert-Butylbenzyl) Propionaldehyde, D-Limonene).

I don't yet have Taylor's new Sensitive shaving cream (replacing the Hypo-Allergenic) so can't provide details on this.

[tjaa67]

thanks for informations

[nine inch razors]

Wow! Thanks Tim! That was a huge help. Thanks for going to the trouble of finding that out! I looked up all of the ingredients and they all seem to be ok! Thanks again dude this helped me a ton!

Can you recommend a favorite?

[jkh]

Wow! Thanks Tim! That was a huge help. Thanks for going to the trouble of finding that out! I looked up all of the ingredients and they all seem to be ok! Thanks again dude this helped me a ton!

Can you recommend a favorite?

Not to burst your bubble, but stearic acid is typically derived from animal fats and oils, although it can be derived from vegetable fats and oils. If I was a betting man I would guess TOBS uses an animal fat/oil (tallow) stearic acid. As mentioned before, you would have to check with them directly to be sure.

Have you considered buying glycerin based soaps? There are many fine glycerin based soaps out there that won't disappoint: Mama Bear, Honeybee Spas, QED, Em's Place ... just to name a few.

[OldFashioned]

I heard Sodium Hydroxide is bad as well as those parabens. Why do creams and soaps have so much chemical bullshit in them? Im sure that Captain Hook didn't get shaved with these ingredients back in the 1500s.

[nine inch razors]

I emailed TOBS and they told me that they didn't use any animal ingredients if anyone was interested.

[cymric]

Not to burst your bubble, but stearic acid is typically derived from animal fats and oils, although it can be derived from vegetable fats and oils.

Soaps and creams are not made by mixing pure stearic, palmitic, myristic, and whatnottic acid; instead, oils from various plant sources are mixed together and saponified as a whole. Since plant oils contain a lot of different compounds, it becomes a matter of law whether you state as an ingredient 'saponified palm oil', or are made to specify the main ingredients of the palm oil itself. Obviously, in most countries the latter route is chosen.

[cymric]

I heard Sodium Hydroxide is bad as well as those parabens. Why do creams and soaps have so much chemical bullshit in them? Im sure that Captain Hook didn't get shaved with these ingredients back in the 1500s.

*Sigh*. This is not 'chemical bullshit', this is just stating in an objective fashion what is in a product. Unfortunately, most teachers at high school do a terrific job of scaring the kids with difficult latiny-sounding names, and are unable to explain the beauty of the system as well as the underlying reality it represents. As a result, kids are emotionally scarred for life, treating everything which even resembles chemistry with distrust and hatred.

Let's break down the components, shall we? I have in front of me a tub of Eton College cream, which contains:

• Aqua
• Stearic Acid
• Myristic Acid
• Potassium Hydroxyide
• Coconut Acid
• Glycerin
• Parfum
• Triethanolamine
• Sodium Hydroxide
• Methylparaben
• Propylparaben

Let's begin with the parfum, which I have not broken down. Perfume contains compounds which to our nose smell nicely. Geraniol, for example, is the main ingredient of the scent of geraniums. D-limonene is found in limes. Linalool is found in many plants known for their pleasant scents: rosewood, cinnamon, laurel. Extracting the compounds out of plant matter is a helluvalot cheaper and easier than synthesising them from scratch. One half of chemical bullshit (measured in lines taken up on the sticker listing the ingredients) is therefore simply a mixture of 'natural' fragrances.

Aqua---I trust that you know what that is.

Stearic acid, myristic acid, coconut acid---these are the actual soap in the shaving cream. Without these three, you wouldn't be able to shave. Their origin is plantlike, as stated above. Shaving cream vendors can play with the ratio of these acids (by adding more or less of a specific type of vegetable oil or fat) to alter the properties of the cream.

Glycerin---this is a by-product of the saponification process, i.e., the process which liberates the above three acids from their chemical hold. The molecule holding the acids in place is, in fact, glycerin. Sometimes the glycerin is removed, but since it has pleasant hydrating properties, it is usually removed only partially. Sometimes it is even added as an extra to make very soft soaps.

Potassium hydroxide, sodium hydroxide---these two are used in the saponification process to actually separate the acids from the glycerin. Using only potassium hydroxide would result in a liquid soap, while only sodium hydroxide would result in a hard soap. Obviously, by combining the two you get something in between. Strictly speaking, these compounds should no longer be present in the cream as on their own they cause skin irritation; I suspect, however, that TOBS added just enough to completely neutralise the acid parts in the stearic, ... molecules so that these dissolve more easily. In other words: at this point the ingredients list will confuse a casual reader unless he applies some chemistry 101.

Triethanolamine---is a compound which is added to control the pH of the product. It is a weak base, much weaker than the hydroxides mentioned above, so apparently the product on its own was too acidic for comfort. Without further information on the quantities in which each of the compounds is present, I cannot say to what extent the amine ups the pH.

Methylparaben, propylparaben---conservatives. You don't want molds in your tub of cream, do you?

There you have it, everything that's in your tub of TOBS. As for Captain Hook in the 1500's... Well, actually, apart from the triethanolamine and the parabens he would've shaved with pretty much the same mess of chemical bullshit, really . In fact, his shaving cream probably contained more chemical bullshit as the compounds weren't as pure as they are today.

[Conscientia]

*Sigh*. This is not 'chemical bullshit', this is just stating in an objective fashion what is in a product. Unfortunately, most teachers at high school do a terrific job of scaring the kids with difficult latiny-sounding names, and are unable to explain the beauty of the system as well as the underlying reality it represents. As a result, kids are emotionally scarred for life, treating everything which even resembles chemistry with distrust and hatred.

Let's break down the components, shall we? I have in front of me a tub of Eton College cream, which contains:

• Aqua
• Stearic Acid
• Myristic Acid
• Potassium Hydroxyide
• Coconut Acid
• Glycerin
• Parfum
• Triethanolamine
• Sodium Hydroxide
• Methylparaben
• Propylparaben

Let's begin with the parfum, which I have not broken down. Perfume contains compounds which to our nose smell nicely. Geraniol, for example, is the main ingredient of the scent of geraniums. D-limonene is found in limes. Linalool is found in many plants known for their pleasant scents: rosewood, cinnamon, laurel. Extracting the compounds out of plant matter is a helluvalot cheaper and easier than synthesising them from scratch. One half of chemical bullshit (measured in lines taken up on the sticker listing the ingredients) is therefore simply a mixture of 'natural' fragrances.

Aqua---I trust that you know what that is.

Stearic acid, myristic acid, coconut acid---these are the actual soap in the shaving cream. Without these three, you wouldn't be able to shave. Their origin is plantlike, as stated above. Shaving cream vendors can play with the ratio of these acids (by adding more or less of a specific type of vegetable oil or fat) to alter the properties of the cream.

Glycerin---this is a by-product of the saponification process, i.e., the process which liberates the above three acids from their chemical hold. The molecule holding the acids in place is, in fact, glycerin. Sometimes the glycerin is removed, but since it has pleasant hydrating properties, it is usually removed only partially. Sometimes it is even added as an extra to make very soft soaps.

Potassium hydroxide, sodium hydroxide---these two are used in the saponification process to actually separate the acids from the glycerin. Using only potassium hydroxide would result in a liquid soap, while only sodium hydroxide would result in a hard soap. Obviously, by combining the two you get something in between. Strictly speaking, these compounds should no longer be present in the cream as on their own they cause skin irritation; I suspect, however, that TOBS added just enough to completely neutralise the acid parts in the stearic, ... molecules so that these dissolve more easily. In other words: at this point the ingredients list will confuse a casual reader unless he applies some chemistry 101.

Triethanolamine---is a compound which is added to control the pH of the product. It is a weak base, much weaker than the hydroxides mentioned above, so apparently the product on its own was too acidic for comfort. Without further information on the quantities in which each of the compounds is present, I cannot say to what extent the amine ups the pH.

Methylparaben, propylparaben---conservatives. You don't want molds in your tub of cream, do you?

There you have it, everything that's in your tub of TOBS. As for Captain Hook in the 1500's... Well, actually, apart from the triethanolamine and the parabens he would've shaved with pretty much the same mess of chemical bullshit, really . In fact, his shaving cream probably contained more chemical bullshit as the compounds weren't as pure as they are today.

Excellent post. Very informative. Thank you.

[1969Fatboy]

I have seemed to notice that Old Fashion is extremely against against any semi-un-natural ingredient or one that he might not be able to pronounce. True Capt Hook didnt use TOBS but he also had a full beard that didnt really need shaving. If he did shave he and he was around today he would probably use PiratesCove soap and its ingredients might even satisify Old Fashions standards of shaving purity laws.

[nine inch razors]

Your post was really informative Cymric. I think a lot of people fail to remember that most "chemicals" are just derivitatives of natural materials. I have noticed a lot of my friends have this preconception as well. I personally prefer to avoid very processed food but that is a purely personal opinion. I have noticed that this whole "natural/go green" thing seems to just be a marketing device targeting "yuppies". I'm all for enviromental conciousness, but feel as though this recent push by clorox "green cleaners" and other major brands is just a thinly veiled attempt to sell a product with perhaps a more expensive label because it is "green".

[TimothyEdwards]

Great post, Cymric.

Just to add the new TOBS Sensitive Skin shaving cream ingredients to complete the list for the future:

Sensitive Skin
Aqua, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Potassium Hydroxide, Coconut Acid, Glycerin, Aloe Barbadensis, Allantoin, Benzyl Alcohol, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone. Parabens Free.

[lowhawk]

I just want a good shave. Period. Of all the things in this world that can reach up and snatch your life shaving products are low on my list. You'd say that too if you dealt with the dirt bags I deal with all day long on my shift. I guess someone has to do it though otherwise you'd be dealing with them and then I suppose you wouldn't be worrying about your shave cream either.