Can you guys take your snark to PM or something? This is not cool.
Post #657 Combe Email Confirming Williams Mug Shave Soap Discontinued
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I don't get it.
Product works perfectly fine for lots of wet shavers. I understand that some people don't like it. Williams will get me from stubble to shaved just like any other shave soap.
There's no point in telling us williams is broken when it works just fine for thousands. Using some cheesy analogies or throwing some insults doesn't change anything.
Product works perfectly fine for lots of wet shavers. I understand that some people don't like it. Williams will get me from stubble to shaved just like any other shave soap.
There's no point in telling us williams is broken when it works just fine for thousands. Using some cheesy analogies or throwing some insults doesn't change anything.
Ahem.
Look, I apologize for staring anything. But I get a bit tired of hearing people bag on something I enjoy when there is no reason for it. We love Williams and if you think we haven't heard the derogatory comments, you're not paying attention. If you don't like it, just keep it to yourself, that's all I'm asking. We're over her lamenting the loss of a great product (in our eyes) and all that a few people can do is dance a happy jig on our misery. As I said to that exact same person over a month ago....don't post hate for hate's sake. It seems like you'd want to go through life being positive and not always negative....but that's just me.
Other than the fact of its pending loss, welcome to the world of the Arko lover, MWF lover, Derby lover, etc.
In other words, thicken thy skin and drive on. Blood in the water does not repel sharks.
In other words, thicken thy skin and drive on. Blood in the water does not repel sharks.
I've seen Williams in only one brick-and-mortar store since I began using traditional methods a little over a year ago. It was in a non-chain drugstore in Jersey City.
It would be interesting to see a graph of the sales stats for the product over time.
Given its price point (and maybe, as mentioned) demographics, I tend to doubt that the explosion of new soaps and creams cannibalized the sales of Williams. It may simply have been slow erosion, with the reformulation as a factor.
It would be interesting to see a graph of the sales stats for the product over time.
Given its price point (and maybe, as mentioned) demographics, I tend to doubt that the explosion of new soaps and creams cannibalized the sales of Williams. It may simply have been slow erosion, with the reformulation as a factor.
Talking to someone from Wal-Mart, when VDH was put in stores it's sales and profit margins were greater than Williams. Hence, VDH replaced Williams.
Let me preface my comments with my undying support and admiration for Williams Shaving Soap...my first shave in 1974 was with Williams and hopefully my last shave before I am buried is with Williams (year TBA).
But...as the news of the discontinuation of Williams filters into the consciousness of the traditional shavers of the world I confess to being bewildered by this soap's ability to be so divisive, so polemic, so controversial, so able to raise the ire in people otherwise mild mannered...I am speechless...
But...as the news of the discontinuation of Williams filters into the consciousness of the traditional shavers of the world I confess to being bewildered by this soap's ability to be so divisive, so polemic, so controversial, so able to raise the ire in people otherwise mild mannered...I am speechless...
Just one of any topics. Some others: pre-shave oil, Tabac, Feather blades, MWF.
Those I can understand...but Williams? Sheesh...
Last Friday, the Wal-Mart I went to had all VDH products marked for clearance. Unless they intend to move to another soap, that, with the demise of Williams, means no shaving soap in local stores.
My take: Anything in shaving is YMMV. What works for one may not work for another. I don't particularly care for Williams, but more power to those who do. What it does mean locally is that there will be no shave soap for someone to look at and say "Hmmm . . . I think I'll try that."
A suggestion for those in contact with the makers of Williams: You might suggest two things:
1. That they can make lots of money by rolling back to the earliest known formulation, call it Williams Original, jump the price up to $5.00 a puck, and go for the niche market (i.e., folks like us).
2. In a PR stunt, release the earliest formulation they have on hand, including the fragrance recipe. The PR aspect is advertising and boosting the corporate image. The release could go something like this: "Williams Shaving Soap is the oldest American shaving soap on the market. Unfortunately, due to economics and changing shaving habits, we no longer have sufficient demand to justify continued production. However, as Williams is a historic brand with great cultural significance, [insert company name here] release the formulation of this icon so that it might be preserved for future generations."
Weird, our walmart has more VDH products then ever before.
I've seen VdH stuff get clearanced at Walmart like they were going to discontinue it, then later return to normal...or just stay in that clearance state forever, even with restocking. It's weird, I can't say I've seen that with anything else at Walmart.
Sounds like there must be some confusion with the people at Wal-Mart who manage inventory and work with the distributors. 
If they went to the earliest formula it would be called JB Williams Genuine Yankee Soap and would be wrapped in tin foil with a pink label.
I have never used Williams. I now have 7 pucks.
B&B does strange things to people.
B&B does strange things to people.
In my opinion...
Even with a crap lather, the soap leaves this certain slickness on my face that is still quite easy to shave with. It's a shave that feels and works great, but does not look usual or pleasant. My lather sometimes comes out a little thin or runny, but my shave is always great. I think the people that hate it so bad they need to rant, are either just needing that lather porn quality mix, or are just that bad at lathering altogether? Soap, brush and shaving. Even the ones we don't necessarily prefer still work.
Rant over.
Even with a crap lather, the soap leaves this certain slickness on my face that is still quite easy to shave with. It's a shave that feels and works great, but does not look usual or pleasant. My lather sometimes comes out a little thin or runny, but my shave is always great. I think the people that hate it so bad they need to rant, are either just needing that lather porn quality mix, or are just that bad at lathering altogether? Soap, brush and shaving. Even the ones we don't necessarily prefer still work.
Rant over.
Why do we feel the need to denigrate and insult others because they don't like your soap?
Yeah, insults over soaps. Hilarious! I damn nearly died laughing at some of the posts on this thread! Good thing politics are kept to a minimum on B&B.
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