Are you bitter?

[cl00bie]

Barack Obama, a man who wishes to be President of the United States has this to say about small town America.

"You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said in an address to fundraisers in San Francisco last week. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

I have a question for you. Do you cling to guns or religion, or are you against immigrants or free trade because you're bitter?

[AACJ]

Ugh...another controversial thread that will most likely end up getting locked.

Thanks for helping us mods keep our jobs!!

[dpm802]

Frustrated? Yes, indeed.
Bitter? Like a truckload of lemons.

But the only thing I cling to is a bottle of Single Malt Scotch.

[Slant-Fan]

Ugh...another controversial thread that will most likely end up getting locked.

+1 and the sooner the better.

[ouch]

Since it's obvious that this poll is in response to Radiohead's evolution poll, I have to say that you have a helluva nerve beating your chest and complaining if you're going to do the same.

[WithTheGrain]

Barack Obama, a man who wishes to be President of the United States has this to say about small town America.



I have a question for you. Do you cling to guns or religion, or are you against immigrants or free trade because you're bitter?

I do think it is interesting that the media ignores what, in my mind, is the most offensive part of the quote: "antipathy to people who aren't like them". Obama's inference that rural people cling to bigotry is to me, quite offensive. I guess I don't care about the quote itself, and I don't think Obama is suggesting that all small town people are racist. But, the media ignoring this part of the quote is to me quite telling; if someone like Romney would have said something like that it would be THE story. Same, to an extent, if it would have been Clinton.

[robertw]

I'm not bitter. BUT, I am a typical white person.

[WithTheGrain]

I'm not bitter. BUT, I am a typical white person.

Oh man, thanks for bringing that back to life. I almost forgot about his old racist grandmother...

I used to like election cycles, they were sort of fun. This one has driven me crazy though...

[Rolo]

So when is this getting locked?

This guy clOObie whines about radiohead's thread being "one of the most offensive posts I've seen here"....

Seriously dude, you're notorious for your offensive posts... What a hypocrite.

[rtaylor61]

I think those who grew up and lived in "small town America" have their own slant. While I now reside in Salt Lake City, I grew up in a town of about 15,000 in Texas, and spent my last 15 years there in a town of about 5,000. We used to laugh that "cars don't need turn signals because you know where everyone is going!". I went through a steel mill all but closing, which had a huge impact. But folks just found other work. Obama needs to walk the walk before he talks the talk. Bitter about immigrants? Just the illegal ones.

Randy

[WithTheGrain]

I think those who grew up and lived in "small town America" have their own slant. While I now reside in Salt Lake City, I grew up in a town of about 15,000 in Texas, and spent my last 15 years there in a town of about 5,000. We used to laugh that "cars don't need turn signals because you know where everyone is going!". I went through a steel mill all but closing, which had a huge impact. But folks just found other work. Obama needs to walk the walk before he talks the talk. Bitter about immigrants? Just the illegal ones.

Randy

Whats also interesting about it is that it lumps experience/bitterness in with gun rights and religion. It is as if people wouldn't support gun rights or care about their faith if they were treated better by the government or had less reasons to be bitter. In other words, happy people don't support gun rights.

[rtaylor61]

Whats also interesting about it is that it lumps experience/bitterness in with gun rights and religion. It is as if people wouldn't support gun rights or care about their faith if they were treated better by the government or had less reasons to be bitter. In other words, happy people don't support gun rights.

I was in the Bible Belt. We did not discuss religion. Also, my truck had a gun rack with a loaded 22 rifle and a .410 shotgun. And I never locked the doors. Of course, I was still in high school at that time...

Randy

[Must Dash]

Bitter? Who, me?



Cheers


Jeremy

[masonjarjar]

I wish politicians would quit having to apologize for saying things that are essentially true.

[ouch]

I'm with Jeremy.

[mark the shoeshine boy]

i live in a small town in southeast missouri and you all are all invited to stop by some time too...

but i have seen the small factories close and head south to mexico while we see some questionable new people in town at the same time. SIDE NOTE: if the jobs are heading to mexico why are they coming up here for ?

like randy, i remember a time when young boys had guns in thier gun rack in thier trucks on the school parking lot. some even made new stocks for thier rifles in shop class, so you had to bring your rifle in to fit it.

just a generation before that the young men use to come out of the deer woods and put thier rifles and knives in the corner of the classroom until class was over and head back out to the woods.

we had over 4 shoe factories in a 20 mile area, suit/pants and shirt factory for hart schaffner and marx...gosh i cant remember the rest...now its all gone...so many of our other major employers are gone, too. in this area, including a hospital.

i know that times change all things...

I can;t wait until randy tells us about a texan radio anouncing: "88 year old sunday school teaching granny stops robbery in progress at 7-11...little miss thelma tumbleson grandmother of 17 and and sunday school teacher of the first international south fried chicken eating large bible carrying 4 day a week attending DEEP ultra southern Baptist for the last 68 years of her life, shot a the robber in da butt !!!! Miss tumbleson said that he told the robber that he ought to give his life to Jesus and turn over a new life for himself...disrespectfully the robber said hey lady why don;t you just kiss my A%$...she produced her44 caliber snub nose and said hey mister you should learn to turn the other cheek...and shot him....the robber stood during his arraignment....

i will stick to both, buth i am not bitter...

i will be gone for the day, but don;t get wild with this thread...and behave while I'm gone....

thanks,

mark easter the shoeshine boy

[htownmmm]

Barack Obama, a man who wishes to be President of the United States has this to say about small town America.



I have a question for you. Do you cling to guns or religion, or are you against immigrants or free trade because you're bitter?

let me see- a candidate says something you do not agree with or take offense to-is this the first time?


marty

[phronq]

No, I cling to guns because I enjoy target shooting.

It has nothing to do with my bitterness

[riooso]

Like most of the politicians of today they miss the point. I am tired of "ILLEGAL" immigrants, not legal but "ILLEGAL" immigrants. I am not a racist I am an immigrant myself, and this craziness must stop. 65% of the American people have wanted us to stop the illegal immigrants for over a decade. I do not like politicians stating that anytime anyone wants to stop illegals in this country are racists and bitter. I have a 125K a year job and I am not bitter about anything. This is a great country that has afforded me great opportunities but we must become a nation of laws once again or we will parish.

Take Care,
Richard Adams

[thunderball]

What a strange question...