Do a base coat of the Murrays Nu-Nile or Original for the Hold. Then apply a light layer of the Murrays Hair Glo for a super high hold, high shine combo.
I have rather light hair, which lets me use "toppers" as my base. Part of the reason I swear by Ruezel Green is the high hold and good shine combo.
I have had little success doing that. I have used dax short and neat ad a topper but it weakens my hold quite significantly. I suspect they do mix and weaken the wax contents