ID problem

I just bought two razors today, but I need help to ID them.

Please I'm so curious


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I cant wait to get my hands on them

Thanks I just love B&B

Gillette NEW "Red and Black" Set & Old Type (possibly a Gillette clone...those blade boxes don"t look like Gillette)

Thank you

Now my question is, how old are these?

I found a similiar picture of the one in the silver colored box


http://www.geocities.com/safetyrazors/jukka.htm

Could OSJ be"he insignia of a Serving Brother of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem (Order of Saint John or OSJ)"

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopict-15251.html

It looks like Patrick Frawley Jr. the founder of Schick was a member and contributer to this order and he sold his company to Gillette in 1955 at the age of 32 http://www.honesty.org/forum/printthread.php?tid=49

Is this a coinsidens?
??

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