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    Hi all.
    Just bought this off the bay.
    Serial no. C142662 which I think makes this a 1911 or 1912 razor?
    Any info on this or advice much appreciated!



    EJ DE89, FH Tech Canada 1932, 1957 Red Tip, 1912 Old Type, 1961 Slim

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    Can't help you with technical specs but I can tell you that it is a heckuva shaver and a great design.
    Rich

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    I have the gold version of that razor. It appears to be a Gillette single ring. Can you find any numbers on it, I could try and help you find the year of manufacturer.

    It appears I am wrong....
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    Looks like a 1912 model 102. Love the shave, has a really nice patina. I personally don't polish them. I clean them, but leave the patina.
    Single Malt Scotch and Extra Sharp Cheddar. Lifes perfect! Johnnie, BOTOC

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    I was actually thinking about getting it replated in bright nickel as there is some plate loss. Hopefully the shave won't be too much more aggressive than say my Fatboy on 5 or my Jagger DE89.
    I look forward to trying something which is just over 100 years old.
    With any luck the teeth will be in good condition, although it's fairly hard to tell from the dark photos.


    Thanks for the responses so far
    EJ DE89, FH Tech Canada 1932, 1957 Red Tip, 1912 Old Type, 1961 Slim

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    Here is a wiki date chart :http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/US_Gi...ng_Information



    1912C80509‑C260238




    1913C260239‑C407806



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    This category lists Gillette razors made with the original Old Type head design. Gillette introduced this design in 1903 with the first double-edge safety razors, and received patent US775134 in 1904. Gillette continued to produce variants until 1929. The Old Type razors included two-piece and three-piece variants. This open comb head used a cap with two 'bullet shaped' positioning pins, coupled to a plate with corresponding holes, to hold the blade in place. Many non-Gillette razors copied this simple design. The name 'Old Type' originated in 1921 with the introduction of the 'New Improved' razor. Until then the 'Old Type' was just the 'Gillette razor'. From 1921 to 1929, the 'Old Type' was lowered in price to $1 and was commonly sold under the name 'Brownie', while the 'New Improved' was sold for Gillette's standard razor price of $5 (source: Cutting Edge by Gordon McKibben, Harvard Business Press, copyright 1997).

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    No. C142662 would be from 1912, as 1911 ended with C80508.
    Single Malt Scotch and Extra Sharp Cheddar. Lifes perfect! Johnnie, BOTOC

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    Ah ok. Thanks. A letter & number is sooooo much easier!
    EJ DE89, FH Tech Canada 1932, 1957 Red Tip, 1912 Old Type, 1961 Slim

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    Zygalski...excellent find! I have a 1908 Single-ring in the arsenal and it's a phenomenal shaver. I actually used it this morning with a Feather. You're going to enjoy!

    JBradley: I'm with you...love the patina. I never take it off, either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jbradley View Post
    No. C142662 would be from 1912, as 1911 ended with C80508.
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    Sorry...forgot to add:

    Very YMMV, but I'd put it's shave between the NEW and the late '40s Aristocrat.

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    Rick
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    Quote Originally Posted by zygalski View Post
    Thanks Alex.
    So C142662 is 1911 by the looks of that wiki article.
    1911 B697601‑B999999
    C1-C80508
    Quote Originally Posted by jbradley View Post
    No. C142662 would be from 1912, as 1911 ended with C80508.
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    Ok well I like sharp blades, so I'll slap a Feather, Polsilver SI or Gillette Black in it & let you know what I think.
    EJ DE89, FH Tech Canada 1932, 1957 Red Tip, 1912 Old Type, 1961 Slim

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    The razor arrived today, complete with a small crack at the top of the handle. I think I will try to get it restored & hopefully the crack can be fixed somehow. Other than that it appears in excellent condition for a 100 year old razor.
    EJ DE89, FH Tech Canada 1932, 1957 Red Tip, 1912 Old Type, 1961 Slim

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    I wouldn't worry too much about the crack. It looks like it doesn't even go all the way through. Most of these have this issue.
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    I have the same razor only from 1920. Same crack. It won't affect the shave.

    Great shaving razor. Easy to get a BBS.

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    Thanks fellas... that's encouraging.
    Today I sent the razor off to Dave at Restoredrazors. Hopefully he can prevent the crack getting any worse & also give it a sympathetic new nickel coating whilst keeping the character of this Gillette intact...
    EJ DE89, FH Tech Canada 1932, 1957 Red Tip, 1912 Old Type, 1961 Slim

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    Hope that you enjoy that razor. Post a pic when it's back from replating. I shaved with an old type clone on and off for 20 years. It wasn't until finding Badger and Blade that I learned I needed more razors, like this recent acquisition, a 1905 single ring no crack:


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    That's gorgeous!
    EJ DE89, FH Tech Canada 1932, 1957 Red Tip, 1912 Old Type, 1961 Slim

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