Hi BigPete! I did the same (purchased the R1 Colossus), however, I then purchased the S1 plates and I have not used my R1 Plates since! The S1 is my "perfect" razor!
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Hi BigPete! I did the same (purchased the R1 Colossus), however, I then purchased the S1 plates and I have not used my R1 Plates since! The S1 is my "perfect" razor!
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the point of a slant? Half of it lacerates you and the other half doesn't cut hair?
Hi,
All of it cuts hair more effectively than any other kind of safety razor.
This becomes important when the whiskers become thick, stiff old hairs like they are off of a scrub brush, like mine are after 40 years of shaving.
Stan
All of it cuts hair more effectively than any other kind of safety razor.
This becomes important when the whiskers become thick, stiff old hairs like they are off of a scrub brush, like mine are after 40 years of shaving.
Stan
How does it do this?
Hi,
By having a cutting action in two directions at once instead of one. Think Guillotine.
Stan
By having a cutting action in two directions at once instead of one. Think Guillotine.
Stan
Ah, I get that logic. Makes sense, thanks!
+1...
I have been enjoying both the S1 & S2 since I started shaving with them, without giving too much thought to what is going on behind the scenes, so to speak. Your descriprion makes sense to me and provides a good mental picture of the cutting action of the slant..
As some have already indicated but perhaps in a different way consider the blade orientation. With a standard blade the contact with the beard is straight on. The blade is either "pushing" or "pulling" against the beard depending on the grain of the beard at the time of contact. This can be a blunt cutting action. With the slant however, the cutting angle is set on a diagonal thus the cutting action is more efficient. For many this improved efficiency produces a better shave. Lastly, if you have a beard that grows in many different directions (determined by beard mapping) using a slant can be a big improvement. Hope this helps.
I am intrigued as I have a swirly beard in many directions. Do you have any plans on making a slant baseplate with a smaller blade gap than the one you have now, which seems a bit aggressive?
Hi Patrick. I just thought I would offer my own take regarding the agressiveness of the ATT slant. As one who also has swirly growth patterns and is not comfortable with the more agressive razors I have found that with a bit of practice the S1 performs well if you use slow, short to medium strokes and follow the no pressure rule..
See, that's the thing. I don't like the no pressure rule. I have an R1 and M1 and would prefer something in-between, but I seem to favor the M1 because I like to be a bit more careless and apply pressure. The R1 would lacerate me if I wasn't overly careful. Based on the blade gap measurements I would be hesitant to even try the S1.
All this being said, what is the cost to Stan to produce a prototype of an in-between baseplate for both regular and slant? Maybe we could get some folks together for a special order, or if it is reasonable I'll pay out of pocket to try it.
The slant plates are designed to fall between the M1 plates and the R1 plates.
That's why I get the best shaves from a slant.
Patrick, I started out with the M2 plate, then moved on to the R1 which I could not get comfortable with as I found it too agressive for me. My impression of the S1 is that it does in fact fall between the M and R plates.
I would be happy to send you my S1 head for a tryout if you wouldn't mind sending it back to me at some point. It's a small package so shipping would be cheap..
My usual daily driver is my S2 so I would not miss the S1 for a few weeks. If you're interested, PM me your shipping address.
You're so kind! I think I might be sold on just getting one now, lol.
How is the aggressiveness in between an R1 and M1 if the blade gap is 0.03 larger than the R1?
Hi,
The action of the relationship between blade gap and exposure is different between a slant and a non slant design. It also is different between slants which use a different degree of helix (meaning I can't use those measurements between my Fasan and an ATT slant).
Stan
The action of the relationship between blade gap and exposure is different between a slant and a non slant design. It also is different between slants which use a different degree of helix (meaning I can't use those measurements between my Fasan and an ATT slant).
Stan
Interesting...
Stan: Do you mean the S1 falls between the M1 and R1; and the S2 falls between the R1 and H1, etc. ?
