Wow, I have to say I've seen the light.

**chris_nor_cal** · 02-04-2008, 09:44 PM

I bought T&H Soap for bowl lathering a few months ago with zero success. Terrible lather. The lather would be airy and thin with poor lubrication, the blade would skip, and the razor would tug.

Fast forward

I started face lathering with a smaller stiff brush (rooney size one style one super badger) instead of my AOS cream with my big floppy AOS brush and WOW what a difference. Now The stuff is nice and slick and gives me better lubrication that a cream, I just go back to the puck after every pass or two. I don't get it, every time I think I've got something figured out with this stuff (ie. blade brand) it changes up on me.

I used to think you soap guys were crazy--I didn't believe in it because I thought it was better to be able to control the water content in a bowl.. Wrong

**Kyle** · 02-04-2008, 09:47 PM

Welcome to the soap user's club. Someone will be by shortly to teach you the secret hand shake.

**chris_nor_cal** · 02-04-2008, 09:51 PM

i forgot to mention, I literally threw the soap w/ wooden bowl in the garbage can, and they dug it out to give it one last shot since there was so much praise for it on here. I figured I must be the one with the problem and not the soap. Turns out I was right.

**OldSchoolYoungin** · 02-04-2008, 09:55 PM

Since I mainly use soaps so much, I've been using a few creams lately and at first I almost forgot how to lather them

. Once you really master soap lathering, I don't see much reason to go back to creams for any reason other than a change of pace. For those that claim creams provide a creamier, richer and denser lather, I disagree

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**cr8n** · 02-04-2008, 09:55 PM

I think Antique Hoosier was looking for some tonight. You still have time!

**ScottS** · 02-05-2008, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by chris_nor_cal

I used to think you soap guys were crazy--I didn't believe in it because I thought it was better to be able to control the water content in a bowl.. Wrong

Give face lathering a shot with cream too. It's real easy to overwork a cream in a bowl. Sure, it gives you a more photogenic lather, but your face couldn't care less.

**Phog Allen** · 02-05-2008, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by OldSchoolYoungin

I don't see much reason to go back to creams for any reason other than a change of pace...

Agreed. The latest cream purchase for me was way over a year ago. Maybe two years. Since having "the moment" with hard soaps, particularly triple milled soaps, I haven't looked back. The creams are not bad products, I just like the soaps better.

Regards, Todd

**chris_nor_cal** · 02-05-2008, 06:18 PM

what does tripple milled mean-- just that its hard and not glycerine like regular body soaps?

also can i really do creams with a rooney size 1 style 1 super. i thought you had to have a bigger rather soft brush for creams

**Antique Hoosier** · 02-05-2008, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by cr8n

I think Antique Hoosier was looking for some tonight. You still have time!

I will be HAPPY to take any and all T&H Luxury Soap pucks off members hands who don't like the stuff! LOL.... It (as well as TABAC) is my top of the line favorite. I don't use creams anymore...prefer the soap....

**DEmac** · 02-05-2008, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by chris_nor_cal

what does tripple milled mean-- just that its hard and not glycerine like regular body soaps?

It means that it has been milled three times. Ha, you thought it was going to be more complicated than that didn't you? Nope, this is soap territory, nice and simple. By "milled" I mean that it was run through a cheese grater, then squeezed into a bar. The more you repeat it the denser the soap is. There are some crazies out their milling their soap seven times!!! If you want you can actually mill it yourself with a cheese grater and squeeze it into a container of your choice.

Someone else will have to answer to whether glycerin soaps can be milled or not, I believe they can but I'm not the expert.

You'll have to watch it with the soaps though, before you know it you'll be using a boar brush and saying crazy things on the threads like "aren't boar brushes great!?" or "I think boar brushes lather soap better and make my stubble stand up straighter."

Welcome aboard, hint hint.

**chris_nor_cal** · 02-06-2008, 02:50 AM

LOL

you know i actually have been considering a stiffer brush since the stuff that grows sideways on my neck is impossible to shave clean with my HD (fusion gets it though). You like boar brushes? But...they're so.........cheap and not badger

**ScottS** · 02-06-2008, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by DEmac

Someone else will have to answer to whether glycerin soaps can be milled or not, I believe they can but I'm not the expert.

It's a dry process that heavily relies on some expensive industrial equipment. See http://www.micmacindia.com/soap/triple_roller_mill.htm

I don't think its actually shredded, but put through rollers. I suppose you can put any soap through a mill, but it really is out of reach for most artisans.

**Lynchmeister** · 02-06-2008, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Phog Allen

Agreed. The latest cream purchase for me was way over a year ago. Maybe two years. Since having "the moment" with hard soaps, particularly triple milled soaps, I haven't looked back. The creams are not bad products, I just like the soaps better.

Regards, Todd

Me as well. I never thought I'd see the day, but I now favor soap over cream. When everyone used to rave about how much slicker soap was versus cream, I never bought into it and would secretly write them off as delusional. Of course I wasn't properly lathering my soaps, which is all to familiar a tale for new soap users. Now that I've figured out both glycerin and triple milled soaps and have been using them exclusively for about 3 weeks, I used my Vulfix sandalwood cream yesterday. Yes, it was creamy, dense, and marshmallow-y, but so is my soap lather. The difference? The cream lather is slightly denser, which yields more resistance against the razor.

An epiphany I thought I would never have.