Are these the same razor with different cases or are there differences in the razors themselves?
British Aristocrat #15 and #20
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They look exactly the same to me based on Mr. Razor's pictures (other than the cases, which are definitely different).
http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/One-Piece open comb/open comb.htm
However, he lists the #15 at 77 grams and the #20 at 71 grams. Typo? I have no idea. I own neither the #15 nor the #20. I do own the 1936 English Aristocrat (which is similar to a #15, but plated in silver). It weighs 77 grams.
http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/One-Piece open comb/open comb.htm
However, he lists the #15 at 77 grams and the #20 at 71 grams. Typo? I have no idea. I own neither the #15 nor the #20. I do own the 1936 English Aristocrat (which is similar to a #15, but plated in silver). It weighs 77 grams.
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Look at the center bar of each. #20 has little "wings"][ while #15 doesn't. Also according to Mr. Razor the inside of the handle of each may explain the weight difference. Also one of the knobs my be solid.
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The wings were a design change that happened during the run of the OC Aristocrat; there are No. 15s both with and without them. I would be very comfortable saying that the interior connection was the same, too.
Everything I've seen indicates that all of these various Aristocrat sets were the same razors just in different cases. It's always referred to just as the "Gillette 'one piece' Aristocrat" in ads from the period. The Australian price sheet that Achim has (below) even hangs the No. 20 set off of the No. 15's listing as almost an afterthought.
Thanks Porter. So it looks like if you get one it's almost a non issue to have the other as they are almost the same.
Both the #15 and #20 have wings on the center bar in Mr. Razor's pictures. The 1936 English Aristocrat (no number), plated in silver, has no wings in his pictures.
Also, the ad referenced by Porter shows the #15 OC and the #21 SB, not the #20 OC that OP was asking about. The ad does not show the comb/bar element. However, this is a distinction w/o a difference, in that Porter's point is valid either way.
​Never mind. I missed the bit about "No. 20 unillustrated."
Also, the ad referenced by Porter shows the #15 OC and the #21 SB, not the #20 OC that OP was asking about. The ad does not show the comb/bar element. However, this is a distinction w/o a difference, in that Porter's point is valid either way.
​Never mind. I missed the bit about "No. 20 unillustrated."
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Porter nailed it, as always! The razors in my #15 and #20 sets look exactly the same and both have the wings in the center bar. The knurling on the handles are also the same.
Wings? Are you specifying this part [ in yellow arrows ]---those are the screws to release the handle
No Alex. The center bar where the blades are inserted. The OTHER end
I'm on my phone otherwise I'd copy & paste from Mr. Razor site the two differences.
I'm on my phone otherwise I'd copy & paste from Mr. Razor site the two differences.Allow me.
No wings (picture on bottom left):
No wings (picture on bottom left):
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Wings (small picture on right):
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Thanks for all the great information. It seems safe to say that shaving with a #20 will be the same experience as shaving with the #15.
Yes you are, and thank the Brits for numbering these same razors and confusing the heck out of us.
Yes you are, and thank the Brits for numbering these same razors and confusing the heck out of us.
How do you think I feel? My English Aristocrat does not even have a number! It is a silver plated #15, which is to say, it is sans nombre.
The Pig Skin No.20 Is a Sweet Looking Pig Skin Presentaion, and is also the Harder of the Two to find, IMO that is )
)How do you think I feel? My English Aristocrat does not even have a number! It is a silver plated #15, which is to say, it is sans nombre.
If you're referring to this one:
Then its simply called "The Gillette Aristocrat One Piece Razor" before they introduced model numbers on British Aristocrats. I have the same set and its magnificent!
Alex, it's not a booklet but a price insert. The 15 in the insert is not the model number but indicates the price of the set to be 15 shillings, as you can see in the Gillette advertisement for this set:
That is beautiful.
OH, my bad, i should have known better...
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