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Anybody else affected by this plastic-bag ban nonsense?

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Joey

The City of Los Angeles (or at least my city within the county) has decided to BAN plastic bags. To further insult us, they make you pay 10 cents to buy a paper bag!

Of course the monetary aspect of it is not very significant, but I am completely disgusted that people have allowed this to happen in the most well known capitalist country.

Regardless of political views, I think everyone should agree that government should not be sticking their noses into business owners' affairs. It's not even strictly large corporate supermarkets. Starting in a few months, NOBODY that sells stuff can issue plastic bags. That means 711's, gas stations, liquor stores etc..

I don't mean to start a political war here, but I am the only one recognizing the socialistic/communistic (dare I say monarchist?) style government this country is starting to adopt? I miss good ol' capitalism...
 
grendel

grendel

Joey said:
To further insult us, they make you pay 10 cents to buy a paper bag!
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Joey said:
...I am completely disgusted that people have allowed this to happen in the most well known capitalist country.
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Ummm... this is the very definition of capitalism... just sayin'.

Joey said:
I don't mean to start a political war here, but I am the only one recognizing the socialistic/communistic (dare I say monarchist?) style government this country is starting to adopt? I miss good ol' capitalism...
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Actually, it's nothing to do with socialism, and definitely nothing to do with communism. Or monarchism, for that matter.
 
Rockminer

Rockminer

I doubt this thread is going to last much longer if it stays on the same course. I don't have any problem with switching to paper. In fact, I take my own bags and get a credit.
 
J

Joey

Yea I understand that, and that's what I've been doing anyway. But that's just beyond the point, the point is we shouldn't have to do that.
 
SiBurning

SiBurning

Do you have to pay 20 cents for a doubled bag?

Anyway... Plastic sucks! In a razor or a bag.
 
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Rockminer

Rockminer

I consider plastic bags to be non degradable trash, and paper to be a degradable product. I don't really care how we get rid of them, just as long as my nephews don't have to live with our trash.
 
luvmysuper

luvmysuper

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Rockminer said:
I consider plastic bags to be non degradable trash, and paper to be a degradable product. I don't really care how we get rid of them, just as long as my nephews don't have to live with our trash.
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They could melt them down and make Fusion handles.
 
J

Joey

luvmysuper said:
They could melt them down and make Fusion handles.
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LOL. I do find a lot of use for the bags though, they hold clothes, trash, stuff in the garage and what not. Maybe in 20 years you could sell a pristine Ralph's bag on eBay for 500 dollars!
 
the_edski

the_edski

Rockminer said:
I consider plastic bags to be non degradable trash, and paper to be a degradable product. I don't really care how we get rid of them, just as long as my nephews don't have to live with our trash.
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+1. Or my great great great great great great great great great great great newphews...

edit...I meant grand...you get the point
 
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Isaac

Isaac

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luvmysuper said:
Usually, I pay an extra dollar and have my stuff carried by an old bag.
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ROFL

I always enjoy going to stores in cities such as Whole Foods where Paper is still offered. I was quite shocked recently though. My mom had gone through a big canvas bag phase from Whole Foods. It worked out great but then they started to downsize the canvas bags, so you would need to buy more of them. I dont know why, but she just kinda stopped using them. She still has a good 20 or so of the big canvas bags.
 
Isaac

Isaac

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kats said:
I refuse to become "one of them" without a fight. A free market supply-and-demand - purely capitalistic system would allow competition and the consumer to ultimately decide how purchases are bagged, what it costs, how it is paid for, etc... "They" have begun the same game here in Oregon. The Portland area is in the same "bag" - no plastic allowed with a phase out period in progress. What I can't get around is the idea that these same people are typically anti-forestry - so paper is becoming a problem -and more forest land burns every year due to inability to harvest and appropriately manage our forest lands.
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I thought paper was making a comeback in certain stores for the ability for it to be recycled?
 
Hunter

Hunter

I keep a bunch of canvas bags in my trunk for this reason, I don't really care about paper or plastic. Really just easier to have your own bags that you know won't end up breaking on you if you end up having something sharp that could put a hole in it.
 
Isaac

Isaac

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It drives me crazy when baggers place one or two items in a bag. Then you end up with 40 bags for 30 items. On top of that, the plastic bags seem to be getting thinner and thinner.
 
Lamar

Lamar

Isaac said:
It drives me crazy when baggers place one or two items in a bag. Then you end up with 40 bags for 30 items. On top of that, the plastic bags seem to be getting thinner and thinner.
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When that starts happening I hold the bag carousal so it can't turn and tell her/him to just add it to the bags in front of her/him. I might start doing the canvas bag thing. Dunno.
 
ricardo9505

ricardo9505

not the site for this kind of discussion. can get ugly.
I've traveled a bit and from appreciating the world and the natural beauty, and I have a daughter, I feel an obligation to improve the well being of our habitat as rationale animals on this planet.
 
mmack66

mmack66

Joey said:
The City of Los Angeles (or at least my city within the county) has decided to BAN plastic bags. To further insult us, they make you pay 10 cents to buy a paper bag!

Of course the monetary aspect of it is not very significant, but I am completely disgusted that people have allowed this to happen in the most well known capitalist country.

Regardless of political views, I think everyone should agree that government should not be sticking their noses into business owners' affairs. It's not even strictly large corporate supermarkets. Starting in a few months, NOBODY that sells stuff can issue plastic bags. That means 711's, gas stations, liquor stores etc..

I don't mean to start a political war here, but I am the only one recognizing the socialistic/communistic (dare I say monarchist?) style government this country is starting to adopt? I miss good ol' capitalism...
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Did you just move to California? Don't blame their actions on the rest of the country.

If face with such a conundrum, I would simply use the reusable canvas bags, as I would never pay for a paper bag.
 
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