Go Bucks!!!!!!!

**Dr. Mike** · 01-07-2008, 06:48 AM

'Nuff said.

**tim8557** · 01-07-2008, 11:06 AM

I'm with ya Brother ! I imagine there won't be an available bar stool within 60 miles of campus tonight.

**Dr. Mike** · 01-07-2008, 11:38 AM

My butt will be on my couch, in front of my HD TV, with my son up in bed and my wife at work!
I also have seasons 1 and 3 of "The Office" as backup if it ends up being as bad as last year.

**castlecraver** · 01-07-2008, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by tim8557

I'm with ya Brother ! I imagine there won't be an available bar stool within 60 miles of campus tonight.

How is that different from any other night in Columbus?

**Mr. Gillette** · 01-07-2008, 07:17 PM

Tonight, before the game, one of THE Ohio State's illustrious players was being interviewed on the news...he was trying to pronounce some simple English words like "And" "So" "That" "The" but stumbing over them, as many Buckeye students do.

SWMBO was in the kitchen rustling me up some grub...she yells out..."Oh turn off that Boomhauer...you know I hate that show!" Imagine the laugh we had when she discovered it was Channel 7 sports and it was a real "Scholar-Athlete" talking instead of an exaggerated cartoon-like caricature of a person with a speech defect.

I'm all for the Buckeyes...isn't a buckeye a hairless nut? Seems to be this way for me.

But then, I'm from Michigan. We don't give a damn for the whole state of Woody...

**TstebinsB** · 01-07-2008, 07:43 PM

OSU needs either a miracle or a few LSU players to get injured to win this game. Terrible showing so far.

**Henchman** · 01-07-2008, 09:22 PM

Ouch.

Hench

**TimmyBoston** · 01-07-2008, 09:25 PM

Huge disappointment

**castlecraver** · 01-07-2008, 09:32 PM

Sloopy's gotta hang on for another year at least.

**M. McCord** · 01-07-2008, 09:33 PM

SEC 2 - Ohio State 0

Although they did play better tonight than last year.

**TromboneGuy** · 01-07-2008, 09:53 PM

Ohio State, I feel your pain.

Signed,

A Sooner Fan.

**DMac** · 01-07-2008, 09:56 PM

another vote in favor of all BCS-eligible conferences to be required to have championship games.

just sayin'..........

**merryjoulton** · 01-07-2008, 11:17 PM

This is outrageous and everyone saw it coming. OSU didn't deserve to be in this game last year and didn't deserve it this year. I don't care how many wins they have in the regular season look at this pathetic schedule:
Youngstown State
Akron
Washington
Northwestern
Minnesota
Purdue
Kent State
Michigan State
Penn State
Wisconsin
Illinois
Michigan
How many of those teams are ranked right now? Two, and they lost to one of them at home while they were unranked. It shouldn't be surprising to anyone that they got embarrassed for the second year in a row.

**TstebinsB** · 01-07-2008, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by merryjoulton

This is outrageous and everyone saw it coming. OSU didn't deserve to be in this game last year and didn't deserve it this year. I don't care how many wins they have in the regular season look at this pathetic schedule:
Youngstown State
Akron
Washington
Northwestern
Minnesota
Purdue
Kent State
Michigan State
Penn State
Wisconsin
Illinois
Michigan
How many of those teams are ranked right now? Two, and they lost to one of them at home while they were unranked. It shouldn't be surprising to anyone that they got embarrassed for the second year in a row.

A lof of this has to do with your preseason ranking. If you're ranked high enough to start the season and teams ahead of you keep losing, by default you keep moving up until you play in the title game. So many teams lost. If teams had won their games, OSU wouldn't have been in the game. Out of the top programs, OSU was the only school with one loss. It's not their fault.

**merryjoulton** · 01-07-2008, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by TstebinsB

A lof of this has to do with your preseason ranking. If you're ranked high enough to start the season and teams ahead of you keep losing, by default you keep moving up until you play in the title game. So many teams lost. If teams had won their games, OSU wouldn't have been in the game. Out of the top programs, OSU was the only school with one loss. It's not their fault.

Exactly. The Buckeyes were overrated from the beginning and could only go up from the start they had with those teams at the beginning of their schedule. Why there are preseason rankings in the first place is beyond me, especially when in the long run they can affect the post season.

**TstebinsB** · 01-08-2008, 12:04 AM

Considering the preseason rankings, I don't see how it could've been anyone but Ohio State:

Oklahoma - lost to two unranked teams
USC - lost to unranked Stanford in one of the biggest upsets ever
Va Tech - lost 48-7 at home to LSU; lost to BC when leading in 4th quarter. The computers don't like that.
Georgia - lost to unranked South Carolina at home, unranked Tenn. on the road
Missouri - lost to OU twice and started way too low in rankings to make up all the points in the BCS standings; had to lose only one game
Kansas - started way too low in rankings to make up all the points in the BCS standings; had to go undefeated
Arizona St. - lost to 2 of 3 ranked opponents; only beat Cal. (Cal went 7-6)
Florida - lost to unranked Auburn at home and at LSU in consecutive weeks; losing streaks are huge blows to your BCS standings
Hawaii - played NOBODY; not our problem that no one would schedule them
West Virginia - lost at USF (finished at 9-4) and to unranked Pitt at home late in the season

**Dr. Mike** · 01-08-2008, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by TstebinsB

Considering the preseason rankings, I don't see how it could've been anyone but Ohio State:

Oklahoma - lost to two unranked teams
USC - lost to unranked Stanford in one of the biggest upsets ever
Va Tech - lost 48-7 at home to LSU; lost to BC when leading in 4th quarter. The computers don't like that.
Georgia - lost to unranked South Carolina at home, unranked Tenn. on the road
Missouri - lost to OU twice and started way too low in rankings to make up all the points in the BCS standings; had to lose only one game
Kansas - started way too low in rankings to make up all the points in the BCS standings; had to go undefeated
Arizona St. - lost to 2 of 3 ranked opponents; only beat Cal. (Cal went 7-6)
Florida - lost to unranked Auburn at home and at LSU in consecutive weeks; losing streaks are huge blows to your BCS standings
Hawaii - played NOBODY; not our problem that no one would schedule them
West Virginia - lost at USF (finished at 9-4) and to unranked Pitt at home late in the season

With the way it ranks teams, the BCS was correct in putting OSU first. But (and understand, I am a big Bucks fan here), I think OSU last year and this year makes a pretty good case for how flawed the BCS system is in ranking teams. OSU both years has made pretty convincing cases that the BCS had it wrong ranking them the number 1 team in the nation. They come into these games and are made to look foolish. I wish they could compete in these games, but it is worse to see them go in and get so completely trashed. I would much rather see them go off to some other bowl where they get a better match-up. But then it also throws LSU into question. Are they really number 1 now? They had 2 total losses for the year going into this game. And they beat 1-loss OSU in a game that only looked competitive in the early half of the first quarter.
Look, flukes can happen. USC lost to Stanford, but does anybody really believe that that was a reflection of how bad a team USC is? No. Sometimes you just have a crappy game. In the NFL, you don't have to have a perfect season to get a shot at the title. So anomalies don't ruin your chances. But the way the BCS is set up, you can't have anomalies. And so it is really leaving me scratching my head as to why a 2-loss team was playing for the championship. OSU played bad, but sometimes in the NFL you get that, if one particular conference is weaker than the other (I think of my high school days when the bigger game was the NFC championship game between the 49ers and the Cowboys, to determine who got to go steamroll whatever AFC team made it to the Super Bowl). But in the NFL, at least that team had to prove that they should be in the big game. I think neither of these teams should have really been in this game. I saw much more interesting bowl games. It is a flawed system that is heavily biased towards the Big 10 and the SEC, for the most part, with the Pac-10 and the ACC also getting heavy favor. You are always going to see the same teams in there. And part of the problem is how heavy the pre-season rankings factor into the overall picture.

**Mr. Gillette** · 01-08-2008, 10:34 AM

Awwwww...POOR POOR POOR buckeyes. WHAAAAAA!!!!!

Maybe they can push their graduation rate up to 28 percent this year, though! There's always a silver lining on that scarlet record...

**TstebinsB** · 01-08-2008, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Gillette

SWMBO was in the kitchen rustling me up some grub...she yells out..."Oh turn off that Boomhauer...you know I hate that show!" Imagine the laugh we had when she discovered it was Channel 7 sports and it was a real "Scholar-Athlete" talking instead of an exaggerated cartoon-like caricature of a person with a speech defect.

**Dr. Mike** · 01-08-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Gillette

Awwwww...POOR POOR POOR buckeyes. WHAAAAAA!!!!!

Maybe they can push their graduation rate up to 28 percent this year, though! There's always a silver lining on that scarlet record...

And yet Michigan still hasn't been able to pull out a win in the last 4 encounters.
I sure hope that Michigan posts better graduation rates than OSU, because with losses against teams like Appalachian State, they shouldn't be counting on careers in the NFL.