Metallographic microscope images

• Mar 12, 2013

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Swxteacher

In my lab I have a Buehler ViewMet Inverted Metallographic microscope with a 3MP OptixCam camera attached. I wanted to see a couple of different blades BEFORE shaving. I plan on conduction hardness testing also and posting my results. I looked at the edge of both blades and found imperfections (holes, chips, and cracks). This is probably a common problem because the edge is so thin, but again the few the imperfections the less chance of blade failure.

The first two blades photographed were the Gillette 7 O'Clock Super Stainless (Green box) and the Wilkinson Sword (black box w/ white paper) blades.

I will post images with 50X, 100X and 200X. The 500X objective is useless for this type of comparison. It is mainly used for examining grain structure after the metal has been polished and etched.

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Gillette 7Oclock Super Stainless 100X

Gillette 7Oclock Super Stainless 200X


Wilkinson Sword 50X-A
(Note: the WS blade appears to have a primary bevel and a secondary bevel. I will follow up with a cross section view after a section and mount the blade)

Wilkinson Sword 100X

Wilkinson Sword 200X

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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saliavin

This is incredible! Consider me subscribed!

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Vercin

interesting hope ull continue this thread with lots more blades

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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VerbaVolant

Swxteacher said:

... I plan on conduction hardness testing also and posting my results...

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I am also interested in these tests since I noticed a huge difference between blades when attempted to cut them with snips. What method are you thinking to use for measuring hardness?
Thanks for posting !

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Swxteacher

VerbaVolant said:

I am also interested in these tests since I noticed a huge difference between blades when attempted to cut them with snips. What method are you thinking to use for measuring hardness?
Thanks for posting !

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A Buehler (Mitutoyo) Rockwell Hardness test instrument. I am using the HR15N scale. This scale is one of the superficial scales that is used for hardness testing thin metals as opposed to testing thicker metal samples like chisels or plane blades.

Buehler ViewMet Inverted Metallographic Microscope w/ OptixCam camera


Buehler Hardness Tester

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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J

jdub7758

You have to do this with the world famous Feather blades!

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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rajagra

Could those imperfections be in the coatings?

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Swxteacher

I took 5 different reading on each blade and got the average hardness value

Gillette 7 O'clock Super Stainless: HR15N = 85.28

Wilkinson Sword: HR15N = 85.5

Both of these numbers equate to a Rockwell Hardness "C" scale = 50.

This is very close to the hardness of a roll of 300 Series Stainless Steel Shim Stock

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Swxteacher

I have some Feathers in my limited collection

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Swxteacher

rajagra said:

Could those imperfections be in the coatings?

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If you look at the WS 200X I think we see the coating as iridescent looking. The larger pits are in the metal.

The 7 o'clock has a hole through the edge. I'm thinking after a few shaves this wold break off and cause a rough shave or some pulling and tugging.

Remember, this is just one section of the blade; an area less than the size of a pinhead. Both blades have minor inperfections along the entire edge and on both sides.

I will try to go back and put some measurements in the photos for reference.

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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VerbaVolant

Swxteacher said:

I took 5 different reading on each blade and got the average hardness value

Gillette 7 O'clock Super Stainless: HR15N = 85.28

Wilkinson Sword: HR15N = 85.5

Both of these numbers equate to a Rockwell Hardness "C" scale = 50.

This is very close to the hardness of a roll of 300 Series Stainless Steel Shim Stock

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Thank you!

Those values are awfully close, don't you think? Two different blades/manufacturers, Russian and German, and yet almost same hardness... Could they be from the same stock?
Do you have any Blue Bird blades? I tried cutting one to make a shim and found it extremely hard.

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Swxteacher

I don't have any Blue Birds. I will continue to test with Feather, merkur, Personna, Kai (Personna and Kai are 2 of my favorites), Astra, and Polsilver SI (my favorite blade!).

I will have to do this during lunch and breaks, so it may take awhile.

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Swxteacher

Statistically there is no difference on hardness

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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J

joost

Great images. Thanks for doing this.

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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mblakele

Great post. From your 200x images it looks like I need to check my math: they appear to be much more detailed than what I thought was 200x with my handheld scope.

Are you planning to look at any used blades?

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Swxteacher

mblakele said:

....Are you planning to look at any used blades?

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Not at this time, maybe after I get a good data baseline.

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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Wingnut

I want this guy's toys!!!

Seriously, this is some really cool research! Thanks for sharing!!

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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VerbaVolant

Sorry, I didn't get this:

Swxteacher said:

Statistically there is no difference on hardness

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Maybe a lighter load for the thin blade?

 

• Mar 12, 2013

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O

oldbluelight

VerbaVolant said:

Sorry, I didn't get this:



Maybe a lighter load for the thin blade?

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I think he's referring to the minute difference between the results. Such a minor variation would not be sufficient to conclude they are truely different. I think it's called a T test and was developed by a guy who worked for the Guiness brewery. Raise your glasses high for bubbly innovation in statistical theory.

 

• Mar 13, 2013

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Swxteacher

OK

Here is a screen shot of my first attempt at recording this data.



I plan on putting all of the images and this spreadsheet on a Google site that I can edit and post new images as they are taken

I prepared the first two section samples and have begun polishing them. These sections will show the end view of the blade under 100X and 200X power. It should show if there is any secondary bevel on the blade. I don't think that I will etch the sections (with acid) to see the grain structure as this isn't too important to this conversation.

You can see the images for all of the blades listed above so far at: https://sites.google.com/site/myderazorblades/