Grousemoor? Definitely a WTH smoke!

**JCinPA** · 08-12-2012, 08:37 PM

Dang!

Well, OC_in_FW warned me about it, then, while smoking it I read the reviews at tobaccoreviews.com. Glad I'm not alone!

This is some weird stuff, for sure!

Finished a bowl, brushed my teeth, can still taste it. Not sure I liked it or didn't like it, but it captivated me and I could not put it down. I think the next bowl will decide it for me one way or the other.

Dang. Weirdest pipe experience to date, that's for sure! Interesting that it is supposedly a 200-year-old blend. I'm just not sure what to make of it.

**haiku44** · 08-12-2012, 09:13 PM

Just lit up a bowl after seeing this. Haven't smoked any for about a month. Man I love this stuff. It took a couple smokes to grow on me. The first smoke was so weird/alien and experience it wasn't that enjoyable. Once I knew for sure what to expect it was great.

**BigMick** · 08-13-2012, 03:01 AM

I love Grousemoor. Hated the first bowl, wasn't sure what to think about the next 2-3 bowls..by the end of the 2 ounces I was in love. Right now I'm out and craving it.

**JCinPA** · 08-13-2012, 04:49 AM

Hmmmmm. Well I had enough for two bowls. If the next one does not grab me, that's it. I'm sure not going to buy a tin to see if it will grow on me. I'll wait a week or so and try again.

What odd stuff. And the reviews are almost universal, hardly anyone likes it right out of the gate. Very odd stuff.

**galopede** · 08-13-2012, 08:35 AM

I have several ounces of five year old Grousemoor in the cupboard. Thinks I must go and have some this evening!

Gareth

**Tim_McD** · 08-13-2012, 08:36 AM

Can you expound on what makes it weird?

I am working through my Frog Morton and McCelland Dominican Gold, but add'l items for the tobbaco vault are always worth seeking out.

Yesterday was the first day all weekend where it was comfortable enough to stay outside for a smoke. I got through my Peterson Yeats with a bowl Frog Morton without tongue bite - a major personal victory.

**Argonaut** · 08-13-2012, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Tim_McD

Can you expound on what makes it weird?

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The Lakeland floral essence. It reminds me of bergamot, or Earl Grey tea. Great stuff!

**oc_in_fw** · 08-13-2012, 03:06 PM

So, that was yesterday. Can you still smell it occasionally? I found that happening the first time I smoked it- kind of haunting

**BigMick** · 08-13-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by oc_in_fw

So, that was yesterday. Can you still smell it occasionally? I found that happening the first time I smoked it- kind of haunting

Yeah that scent will linger with you a while. What really surprised me is how short a time it lingers in the room. Some of the tobaccos I've tried can still be smelled for hours, Grousemoor seems to disappear from the air in minutes, but stick to your nose for hours.

**JCinPA** · 08-13-2012, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by jmallen5

The Lakeland floral essence. It reminds me of bergamot, or Earl Grey tea. Great stuff!

Figgers JMallen would have the answer. I am not good at describing stuff like wine or tobacco, unfortunately. But yeah, that's it. It is an unusual non-tobacco something that is different from any other I have smoked. It's not bad, really, just very different. I mean unique different. You can tell Frog Morton is cut from the same cloth as Dunhill 965 or Nightcap -- yeah they are different, but there are similarities. There are similarities between other classes of tobacco, too.

Grousemoor is ... well Grousemoor. While one might try to describe a latakia blend by reference to another Latakia blend, you can rest assured NOBODY is going to describe any tobacco in reference to Grousemoor. I really think it is unique.

I may end up loving, it, not sure yet, but the next bowl is the decision maker. I didn't care for the first bowl enough to want to buy it again, although I finished it and it really held my interest to the end. But the next one has to grab me or it was a fun experiment that I'm done with. I'll try it later this week and let you know what I think.

**oc_in_fw** · 08-13-2012, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by jmallen5

The Lakeland floral essence. It reminds me of bergamot, or Earl Grey tea. Great stuff!

Originally Posted by JCinPA

Figgers JMallen would have the answer. I am not good at describing stuff like wine or tobacco, unfortunately. But yeah, that's it. It is an unusual non-tobacco something that is different from any other I have smoked. It's not bad, really, just very different. I mean unique different. You can tell Frog Morton is cut from the same cloth as Dunhill 965 or Nightcap -- yeah they are different, but there are similarities. There are similarities between other classes of tobacco, too.

Grousemoor is ... well Grousemoor. While one might try to describe a latakia blend by reference to another Latakia blend, you can rest assured NOBODY is going to describe any tobacco in reference to Grousemoor. I really think it is unique.

I may end up loving, it, not sure yet, but the next bowl is the decision maker. I didn't care for the first bowl enough to want to buy it again, although I finished it and it really held my interest to the end. But the next one has to grab me or it was a fun experiment that I'm done with. I'll try it later this week and let you know what I think.

I can send more

**Kentos** · 08-14-2012, 12:12 AM

Don't all Lakelands taste the same? Or does the Grouse have a singular taste from rest? My only Lakeland is HG Dark Scented.

**jwhite** · 08-14-2012, 12:29 AM

I find the Grousemoore to have a rounder aroma for the scent but the tobacco is much more mild than the dark scented. That doesn't say as much as you'd think considering the DF is opne of the strongest tobaccos around. But if you like the dark, you should give Gorusemoore, Grousemoore plug, G&H Bosun cut plug, G&H RDH and GH Ennerdale a try. All have distinct differences, if I were to pick only two beside the Dark Flake it would be the Grousemoore and Ennerdale.

**Kentos** · 08-14-2012, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by jwhite

I find the Grousemoore to have a rounder aroma for the scent but the tobacco is much more mild than the dark scented. That doesn't say as much as you'd think considering the DF is opne of the strongest tobaccos around. But if you like the dark, you should give Gorusemoore, Grousemoore plug, G&H Bosun cut plug, G&H RDH and GH Ennerdale a try. All have distinct differences, if I were to pick only two beside the Dark Flake it would be the Grousemoore and Ennerdale.

RATS! Now I need to go buy some

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Thanks for the info. Lakeland's are strangely addictive.

**Kentos** · 08-14-2012, 12:44 AM

Grousemoor in stock at JR cigars btw, and FVF in stock at pipes and cigars.

**rickcharles606** · 08-14-2012, 04:04 AM

I really like Grousemoor, it has a "greeness" about it. Ennerdale in my opinion is the epitome of Lakeland soap, and it has grown on me to the point that I've purchased more, after saying that I'd never smoke it again, lol. I cannot explain this either, but I really enjoy smoking it now. Make sure to dedicate one pipe to this weed ;-)

**JCinPA** · 08-14-2012, 05:05 AM

Well, there I go again! Evidently it is not as unique as I thought it was. Is Lakeland a blender or a type of tobacco blend? There are actually more like this?

**galopede** · 08-14-2012, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by JCinPA

Well, there I go again! Evidently it is not as unique as I thought it was. Is Lakeland a blender or a type of tobacco blend? There are actually more like this?

Lakeland is a style, not a blender. Here in Britain where they come from we don't call them Lakelands. That's an American name for them! Basically they originate from the blenders based in Keswick in the Lake District, in England's North West. Lovely area if you fancy visiting!

Samuel Gawith and Gawith & Hoggarth are the two main blenders. A lot of their blends, especially G&H have a sort of floral flavour which a lot of people call soapy. They are not soapy!

Some say Condor and St Bruno are Lakelands even though they aren't blended there.

They can be very addictive once you get the taste for them. My favourite blender is Sam Gawith who do wonderful unflavoured Virginias but my favourite "Lakeland" is Ennerdale Flake from G&H.

After your initial post I had two have two pipes full of Grousemoor!

Gareth

**KarlMaldensNose** · 08-14-2012, 11:42 AM

Great info on the tobacco, Lakelands, Lake District, etc. so far, but I'm still not sure if this soapy or whatever-it-is quality is a topping/casing/flavouring that is applied to the tobacco or if it is a natural characteristic of the tobacco grown in that region. Anyone?

**jwhite** · 08-14-2012, 02:05 PM

It usually refers to the use of floral components in the scenting of tobacco but it is also a regional reference. Tobacco isn't grown there but processed; pressed, cured, aged, and blended in a variety of ways. Where it is processed the type of equipment used as well as aging conditions all have an effect on the final product. There are several blends for blends in the region that don't contain any floral components.