Fatip/Joris handle sizes and handle name thread, post all here!!

**jamesspo** · 08-09-2012, 07:38 AM

Fatip Chrome Grande - Screw: 4.36 MM width : 14.05mm length.

Included handle - fits of course

:iKon Bulldog - doesn't fit at all, slips on but won't thread. My go-to handle :(

BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe - Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently.

:Weber Classic (first version, matte finish) - doesn't fit. Will thread, but tightens too much near the end, won't thread all the way to the head

:Fat Handle Tech - doesn't fit, will thread but too tight, can't reach the head.

:New Thin Bar Handle - doesn't fit - same issue as the fat handle tech

:Merkur 1904 handle - doesn't fit - same issue as fat handle tech, but only gets within 3-4 mm of the head. Not willing to force it beyond that point in fear of damaging threads.

Sadly, not too many workable choices for my copy of the Fatip. I need to grab a Weber Bulldog, and see if it works. I really prefer the heavy knurling and grip of the Bulldog's. Bob's is awesome, but not quite as grippy as I like (RIP Bob).

I've got a few others I have't tried yet. I'll report back with more.

**alex2363** · 08-09-2012, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by jamesspo

Fatip Chrome Grande - Screw: 4.36 MM width : 14.05mm length.

Included handle - fits of course

:iKon Bulldog - doesn't fit at all, slips on but won't thread. My go-to handle :(

BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe - Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently.

:Weber Classic (first version, matte finish) - doesn't fit. Will thread, but tightens too much near the end, won't thread all the way to the head

:Fat Handle Tech - doesn't fit, will thread but too tight, can't reach the head.

:New Thin Bar Handle - doesn't fit - same issue as the fat handle tech

:Merkur 1904 handle - doesn't fit - same issue as fat handle tech, but only gets within 3-4 mm of the head. Not willing to force it beyond that point in fear of damaging threads.

Sadly, not too many workable choices for my copy of the Fatip. I need to grab a Weber Bulldog, and see if it works. I really prefer the heavy knurling and grip of the Bulldog's. Bob's is awesome, but not quite as grippy as I like (RIP Bob).

I've got a few others I have't tried yet. I'll report back with more.

Thank you, report back soon Fatip/Joris Soldier

**Winblows** · 08-09-2012, 08:51 AM

It looks like ordering Fatip's is a kind of a lottery.
"jamessapo" for example (Grande chrome) can't fit the Fat Handle Tech, my fits perfect.

**DEGuy** · 08-09-2012, 08:57 AM

Tony J: I've found with many of my 3-piece razors that the handles have play until the begin to and actually lock down the heads. So this is not unusual. So long as the barrel does lock the head when the fully threaded. I like the finish of the 91R with the Fatip--nice match. I've found Astra SPP blades work well in the Fatip. I won't yet venture into sharper blades with this razor and may never. The Fatip is sufficiently aggressive that for me I don't need a Med Prep or Feather blade--either might be too much for my skin. I agree with Win, nice shirt.

Win: It seems that standardization is not an integral part of Fatip's manufacturing. This is unfortunate for consumers. There really is no rationale for not standardizing their razors' lugs/threads.

**TonyJ** · 08-09-2012, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by DEGuy

Tony J: I've found with many of my 3-piece razors that the handles have play until the begin to and actually lock down the heads. So this is not unusual. So long as the barrel does lock the head when the fully threaded. I like the finish of the 91R with the Fatip--nice match. I've found Astra SPP blades work well in the Fatip. I won't yet venture into sharper blades with this razor and may never. The Fatip is sufficiently aggressive that for me I don't need a Med Prep or Feather blade--either might be too much for my skin. I agree with Win, nice shirt.

Yes, everything is ok as long as shaving goes well. LOL. I like Astra SP's too and I have still under testing Astra SS. Too many nice razors and nice blades to test and unfortunately I can only shave once a day. I love real sharp blades because I have 3,5 years straight shaving behind and aggressive razor combined with sharp as hell blade gives best result and same kind of feeling like straights. On the other hand I'm a variety hunter and enjoying different kind of feelings. ...And that just reminds me to remember to try Muhle grande handle too tih fatip.

**Winblows** · 08-09-2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by alex2363

I cant recall the Parker 98r handle fitting any Fatip.......Im i right?

Unfortunately, you are wrong, my Parker 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barberpole fits my Grande chrome

**DEGuy** · 08-09-2012, 12:20 PM

Guys, thanks for being so giving in helping one another, exchanging information, and posting findings. This is a super-informative and productive thread. Alex, thanks for posting/hosting this thread--well done, friend.

Tony J: I am too 'senior' to attempt steady-hand straight-razor shaving. I give you credit and admire you for doing it. I can see where aggressive OC razors appeal to you. I had read where aggressive open combs are closest to a straight razor--not exactly like one, but closest to it in a DE razor. I do love trying different blades. Thing is, I've probably tossed more blades than I've kept. I have Feathers, Persona Med Prep, Astra SPP, and Persona Med Labs--I've listed these in order my biased re each razors sharpness. Man, do I love wet shaving and all the gear that goes along with it? I'd say the answer is a resounding Yes!

My DE89 handles do not fit my Chrome Fatip Grande as it does with Win's. Fatip has some strange manufacturing practices. Is there any standardization among Fatip razors? I think not. GAM's Chrome Fatip would not accept a Tradere handle, yet Win has had a good fit from many handles. Obviously, the lugs/threads are completely different within the same model Fatip. I wonder if the folks who ordered parts for the defunct Yugo order parts for Fatip--not that far-fetched.

Revelation: I think I got a misfit-Fatip: my neighbor just got a Chrome Fatip Grande, on my recommend, and all my handles fit his razor. I am going to get another Fatip and offer this one to the Razor Gods, who reside on the other side of the Styx. Fatip, take 2, coming up. Let the love begin.

**gus1942** · 08-09-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by jamesspo

Fatip Chrome Grande - Screw: 4.36 MM width : 14.05mm length.

Included handle - fits of course

:iKon Bulldog - doesn't fit at all, slips on but won't thread. My go-to handle :(

BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe - Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently.

:Weber Classic (first version, matte finish) - doesn't fit. Will thread, but tightens too much near the end, won't thread all the way to the head

:Fat Handle Tech - doesn't fit, will thread but too tight, can't reach the head.

:New Thin Bar Handle - doesn't fit - same issue as the fat handle tech

:Merkur 1904 handle - doesn't fit - same issue as fat handle tech, but only gets within 3-4 mm of the head. Not willing to force it beyond that point in fear of damaging threads.

Sadly, not too many workable choices for my copy of the Fatip. I need to grab a Weber Bulldog, and see if it works. I really prefer the heavy knurling and grip of the Bulldog's. Bob's is awesome, but not quite as grippy as I like (RIP Bob).

I've got a few others I have't tried yet. I'll report back with more.

My copy of the FaTip is the Gold. I found my Parker 91R and it fits the Gold and my LC New. My Feather AS fits almost everything including FaTip Gold, Joris, New, Old type and 3 piece solid bars.

**alex2363** · 08-09-2012, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by DEGuy

Guys, thanks for being so giving in helping one another, exchanging information, and posting findings. This is a super-informative and productive thread. Alex, thanks for posting/hosting this thread--well done, friend.

Tony J: I am too 'senior' to attempt steady-hand straight-razor shaving. I give you credit and admire you for doing it. I can see where aggressive OC razors appeal to you. I had read where aggressive open combs are closest to a straight razor--not exactly like one, but closest to it in a DE razor. I do love trying different blades. Thing is, I've probably tossed more blades than I've kept. I have Feathers, Persona Med Prep, Astra SPP, and Persona Med Labs--I've listed these in order my biased re each razors sharpness. Man, do I love wet shaving and all the gear that goes along with it? I'd say the answer is a resounding Yes!

My DE89 handles do not fit my Chrome Fatip Grande as it does with Win's. Fatip has some strange manufacturing practices. Is there any standardization among Fatip razors? I think not. GAM's Chrome Fatip would not accept a Tradere handle, yet Win has had a good fit from many handles. Obviously, the lugs/threads are completely different within the same model Fatip. I wonder if the folks who ordered parts for the defunct Yugo order parts for Fatip--not that far-fetched.

Revelation: I think I got a misfit-Fatip: my neighbor just got a Chrome Fatip Grande, on my recommend, and all my handles fit his razor. I am going to get another Fatip and offer this one to the Razor Gods, who reside on the other side of the Styx. Fatip, take 2, coming up. Let the love begin.

I think that we may have to have alot of members post their razor's handles and then we will determine if the majoirty of the razors that do fit. At this point we have too few members posting thier handels sizes. Like you said yours dont fit but your neighbors does which means its a razor defect or inaccurate manufacturing specs.

**alex2363** · 08-09-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by DEGuy

Guys, thanks for being so giving in helping one another, exchanging information, and posting findings. This is a super-informative and productive thread. Alex, thanks for posting/hosting this thread--well done, friend.

Tony J: I am too 'senior' to attempt steady-hand straight-razor shaving. I give you credit and admire you for doing it. I can see where aggressive OC razors appeal to you. I had read where aggressive open combs are closest to a straight razor--not exactly like one, but closest to it in a DE razor. I do love trying different blades. Thing is, I've probably tossed more blades than I've kept. I have Feathers, Persona Med Prep, Astra SPP, and Persona Med Labs--I've listed these in order my biased re each razors sharpness. Man, do I love wet shaving and all the gear that goes along with it? I'd say the answer is a resounding Yes!

My DE89 handles do not fit my Chrome Fatip Grande as it does with Win's. Fatip has some strange manufacturing practices. Is there any standardization among Fatip razors? I think not. GAM's Chrome Fatip would not accept a Tradere handle, yet Win has had a good fit from many handles. Obviously, the lugs/threads are completely different within the same model Fatip. I wonder if the folks who ordered parts for the defunct Yugo order parts for Fatip--not that far-fetched.

Revelation: I think I got a misfit-Fatip: my neighbor just got a Chrome Fatip Grande, on my recommend, and all my handles fit his razor. I am going to get another Fatip and offer this one to the Razor Gods, who reside on the other side of the Styx. Fatip, take 2, coming up. Let the love begin.

Your welcome, you too have been helpful too.

**alex2363** · 08-09-2012, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Winblows

Unfortunately, you are wrong, my Parker 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barberpole fits my Grande chrome

Thanks, i didnt have a reference as to which razor it did fit.

**alex2363** · 08-09-2012, 09:23 PM

NOTE: These listings will change daily please see end of thread for updated list. So far this is the latest findings as of August /10th /2012....

1) Fatip Grande Nickel :

Do fits : 1) Tradere, 2) Edwin Jagger DE89 , 3) Gillette Fat Tech handle, 4) Gillette New Comb, 5) Weber Bulldog, 6) Weber classic, 8) UFO-Godzilla 9) Parker 91r
10) Parker 48r 11) Ikon Bulldog ( some members say it fits)

Do not fit : Ikon Bulldog, Muelle R41
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2) Fatip Piccolo :

Do fit: 1) Weber Bulldog handle, 2) Tradere, 3) Ikon OSS , 4) UFO Kaiser

Do not fit: 1) Mariner long handle, 2) R41 Grande handle, 3)Ikon Bulldog, 4) EJ DE89
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3) Fatip Grande Chrome :

Do fit: 1)Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL, 2)Weber Bulldog, 3) Ikon Bulldog, 4) Tradere (many members say it fits), 6) UFO-Godzilla, 7) 7 oclock,
8) Gillette New OC, 9) LC ball end gold plated (GB) 10) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US), 11) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US), 12) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB), 13) Gillette Tech straight aluminium, 14) Lord L6 , 15) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle), 16) Parker 98R 17) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe - (Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently, 18) 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barberpole, 19)

Do not fit : Tradere Handle(on some, many do fit)
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4) Fatip Grande Gold :

Do fit : feather AS.

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***Handle and FATIP Razor specs Section***:

Razor Specs:

1) Fatip Grande Nickel ( Thread 4.35) W .74” x L 1.605” x Depth of arc <.17”

2) Fatip Piccolo :

3) Fatip Grande Chrome ( Thread measure 4.38mm)-Screw: 4.36 MM width : 14.05mm length

4) Fatip Grande Gold :

HANDLES SPECS:

1) Tradere ( head 4.80, WT 66 gm)

2) Edwin Jagger DE89 ( threads 4.89mm)- whole razor Weight = 76g

3) Gillette Fat Tech handle
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4) Gillette New Comb- Gillette Bar Handle/SC New =WT 20.4/ - Gillette Ball Handle /LC New = WT 24.7

5) Weber Bulldog (needs 2 extra turns for fit), 2.4 ounces / 3 inch long /

6) Weber classic- wt 58 gms .........Weber New Classic -wt 76 gms

7) Ikon Bulldog,

8) Ikon OSS [head 4.85- wt 100 gms - 95mm long - 12.25mm diameter] (works but is loose until the final turn) ,

9) UFO Kaiser (polished SS, 100mm lg, 13mm diameter, 91 grams wt)

10) Mariner long handle

11) R41 Grande handle ( whole razor WT 35.5)

12) Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL,

13) Feather AS. ( whole razor Wt 90 gms / 3 1/2 in long)

14) UFO-Godzilla (316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 103 gr weight.

Thread is M5x0.8.The neck ends to 8.5 mm)

15) UFO Goliath XL-
316L Stainless Steel. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 123 gr weight.
Red Bronze. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. ??? gr weight (pending).
Thread is M5x0.8. 16) Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole handle (89 gm).

17) lord 16

18) LC ball end gold plated (GB)

18) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US),

19) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US),

20) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB),

21) Gillette Tech straight aluminium,

22) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle),

23) Parker 98R ( 4" handle and weighs 3 oz. whole razor wt)

24) Parker 91r (handle length 99mm, weight 80g (head+handle)

25) Parker 48R (handle length 91 mm, weight 96g (head+handle)

26) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe -

27) UFO Goliath -

316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 103 gr weight.

Red Bronze. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 115 gr weight.
Thread is M5x0.8

**Samjax** · 08-09-2012, 09:31 PM

Alex - the Goliath specs you have are for the Goliath XL. The regular Goliath is a bit shorter and weighs less.

**alex2363** · 08-09-2012, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Samjax

Alex - the Goliath specs you have are for the Goliath XL. The regular Goliath is a bit shorter and weighs less.

oh, i have to fix that...do yuo know the specs?

**Samjax** · 08-09-2012, 09:40 PM

Regular Goliath: 316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 103 gr weight.

**alex2363** · 08-09-2012, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Samjax

Alex - the Goliath specs you have are for the Goliath XL. The regular Goliath is a bit shorter and weighs less.

i got it, thanks anyway

**alex2363** · 08-09-2012, 09:44 PM