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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma View Post
    Brian, that's a stunning stone, top and bottom. That skin really pops... maybe Alex can chime in with a guess about it's origin?
    +1, stunning.
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    Is it larger than the Hone you use it with, Gamma? Or do you hone on it? I thought they were just used as nagura?
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    I hone directly on those larger Nagura. Once in a great while I'll get silly and grab one of them and use it like a regular Nagura on the Awase.

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    Do they work as hones about the same as their slurry does on the Awase?
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    They're on the softer side of things, so, the stone release fresh particles easily. As a result, the slurry is constantly refreshed, and it doesn't break down like it does on the Awase.
    Plus - as Nelson skillfully pointed out - each Nagura is different, regardless of the stamp.
    The whole of any one Nagura is a sum of its parts - cut it up and you can have 4 markedly different Nagura. Or 4 identical ones. Depends on the stone.
    The larger nagura are seemingly more complex, so they're really not just big versions of the smaller slurry stones.
    The two Mejiro in that photo are totally different. Both can be used similarly once you get your head wrapped around it, and you can also use them in different ways.
    They're both Mejiro, so you can plan to use them after Tenjou, or before Koma - depending on the Koma and the Tenjou in question of course.
    Yet - the smaller one on the right is softer than than the big one in the back, its slurry breaks faster, like Tenjou - but it cuts/polishes like Koma.
    Its hard to follow that one if you use it like a nagura on an Awase. I only have one Koma that will take the edge further than that Mejiro can; its a brilliant step-stone in a progression or a lead in stone for an extensive touchup.
    The large one is harder - much harder, and I like to work Tenjou slurry on the awase till it's shot, then go to the big Mejiro for further refinement - then on to the awase with Koma.
    I'm still learning that one. I also use it to refresh the top of the Awase after honing sometimes.

    Sorry for the blathering - I'm still kind of jazzed over today's shave I guess.
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    Not at all. Very interesting. You spend a lot of time with those stones.
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    Nagura are fun especially when you can line them up in some type progression. I have been very fortunate, with the help of very cool and equally knowledgeable nagura heads, I now have the effiicient and repeatable Nagura progression previously shown on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SliceOfLife View Post
    Sheesh. Y/G 6x2" escher is selling for almost $750 on eBay right now with 2 days to go.


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    I don't even use my 6x2" Y/G thuri. The price people will pay for a label.
    and the highest bidder is the same guy that bought a barber's delight for 690 a few days before... wonder why is he hoarding them..
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    He's probably searching for the Ultimate Escher.

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    It's probably someone with a lot of expendable income who just got into it and heard that XYZ is "TEH GRAETEST! CHOO MUST OWNZ!"

    I remember offering someone a labeled 7x1.5" for $100 to be nice a while back (a blue), when they were eBaying for $250-350. He asked me if it was y/g then acted like I was trying to rip him off when I told him it was blue. I think I eBayed it for almost $300 three days later.

    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    and the highest bidder is the same guy that bought a barber's delight for 690 a few days before... wonder why is he hoarding them..
    Last edited by SliceOfLife; 08-19-2012 at 04:48 PM.
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    I sold my Escher labeled for average money on eBay because I found a unlabeled stone I like the feel of a bit better and the fact is was $400 less for the same size didn't hurt my feelings either. The edges from both stone are very similar and possibly the same if I could hone the same identical way twice.
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    My preference for thuri's is based mostly on feel. I like the satiny ones the most. Perhaps Escher graded well and didn't market certain rocks, but there's no evidence of that which I've seen beyond wishful thinking by guys who have Escher's. Honestly the stone that made me most jealous was a boxed grey/green extra soft Fuchs with slurry that someone posted recently. I think it was an 8", maybe bigger. Doubt it cost them even $200. Slap an escher label on it, that's an $800 rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SliceOfLife View Post
    My preference for thuri's is based mostly on feel. I like the satiny ones the most. Perhaps Escher graded well and didn't market certain rocks, but there's no evidence of that which I've seen beyond wishful thinking by guys who have Escher's. Honestly the stone that made me most jealous was a boxed grey/green extra soft Fuchs with slurry that someone posted recently. I think it was an 8", maybe bigger. Doubt it cost them even $200. Slap an escher label on it, that's an $800 rock.
    I must have missed it. Was similar to this in color?

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    Quote Originally Posted by life2short1971 View Post
    I must have missed it. Was similar to this in color?

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    thats nice hone scott
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    my hones. top row l-r, carbo 101, double amalgamite, c12k, thuri w/ rubber, thuri (boxed), bbw row 2 l-r,duro (double hone), ruby, american, row 3 l-r, carbo 118s, clearcut, llyn melynlln w/ rubber, vintage coti combo, vintage coti glued to slate, coti, buffalo easy hone, and a triangle shaped coti bout combo i used 4 a rubber. these are most of my hones that could be used as finishers except my translucent arki. bevel setters and such not included. yes i suffer from HAD. i admit it. i liked honing before i ever got into straights. i almost forgot my largest hone a c12k that measures 15 1/4" x 6" x 2 1/4" this thing is huge it reminds me of a 2'' cap block. tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma View Post
    He's probably searching for the Ultimate Escher.
    i hope your happy... vodka and OJ burn when expelled from the nose while laughing....
    a nice walk in the woods helps me relax and relieves tension....

    the fact i'm dragging a shovel and a body should be irrelevant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by life2short1971 View Post
    I must have missed it. Was similar to this in color?
    So it was you. Yeah that's the one. Congrats on the stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirk 988 View Post
    thats nice hone scott
    Thanks Kirk!
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    My hones - Nakayama asagi from Alex, les Lats hybrid, la Veinette, la Dressante bout, les Lats hybrid bout and hybrid slurry stone

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    That is a stunning hybrid Paul.

 

 

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