Welsh slate vs Coticule

**BakerAndBadger** · 07-24-2012, 09:05 AM

Hi,

I was wondering, I'm back in the UK in a week or so and was thinking about picking up a welsh slate hone for my razors.
I currently have a coticule and a 600/1000 artificial stone (for setting difficult bevels).
So as you've guessed, what are the slate hones like? There's a guy on eBay aj_1001 that sells them and they seem reasonably priced but just wondering if it's worth me getting one or if I would be better sticking with the coti.
Can I use unicot style sharpening with them? Will it work?

Cheers,

Paul

**tomjr** · 07-24-2012, 12:26 PM

i would buy a cnat if u do not have a finisher. i have so many hones but my favorite is the cnat after my coti's. if u still want more keeness after the cnat i like the old slow translucent arki, that's just me i guess. YMMV tom

**BakerAndBadger** · 07-24-2012, 01:09 PM

Noob question. What is a cnat?

**toovira** · 07-24-2012, 01:41 PM

Chinese Natural stone/hone.

**paco664** · 07-24-2012, 07:51 PM

i have a welsh slate... and a Cnat.. and a purple slate... and a dragons tongue... and ... and....

the welsh slate freaking rocks.... it will be an awesome finisher after a coti.... and they are cheap... can't beat that...

**trick420** · 07-24-2012, 07:52 PM

I have three different slates from AJ. The highest grit one that I can the Welsh Thuringian™ is an awesome finisher with oil, and it's what I finish with after my coti.

That or a purple Llyn Melynllyn would be a good deal from him. AJ's a straight shooter too. Top notch eBayer.

Paco and I went in together on two sets to save on shipping.

**paco664** · 07-24-2012, 08:01 PM

really awesome with diamond spray....

**Gamma** · 07-24-2012, 08:03 PM

IMO - coti to Cnat is a step down. At least with my Cotis and the Cnats I've owned.
The Welsh slates I've owned and used: one purple, and one Dragon's Tongue.
The purple was a plausible finisher, the DT was a mid-range stone.
Neither seemed to do anything I liked when slurried.
Both seemed better suited for knives and tools, but the purple one did get me an edge that was ok.
There is another Welsh slate, it's a bit greenish/black - supposedly harder and finer, but I haven't tried one.

**paco664** · 07-24-2012, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Gamma

IMO - coti to Cnat is a step down. At least with my Cotis and the Cnats I've owned.
The Welsh slates I've owned and used: one purple, and one Dragon's Tongue.
The purple was a plausible finisher, the DT was a mid-range stone.
Neither seemed to do anything I liked when slurried.
Both seemed better suited for knives and tools, but the purple one did get me an edge that was ok.
There is another Welsh slate, it's a bit greenish/black - supposedly harder and finer, but I haven't tried one.

thats the one i have...

**cleanshaved** · 07-24-2012, 08:52 PM

What are the "SINGLE NATURAL WELSH SLATE 15k SHARPENING STONE "welsh Thuringian" like
selling on ebay

**paco664** · 07-24-2012, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by cleanshaved

What are the "SINGLE NATURAL WELSH SLATE 15k SHARPENING STONE "welsh Thuringian" like
selling on ebay

that is the stone i am talking about.... welsh slate.... it really is a fine finisher...

**BakerAndBadger** · 07-25-2012, 03:04 AM

Just sent AJ an e-mail to see if he wouldn't mind sending one to my folks in the UK so that I can pick it up next week when visiting...... oooh HAD might be setting in.

**MilkyLee** · 07-25-2012, 07:15 AM

Paco664

Since you have this and a JNat, which edge to you prefer or feel is "better"?

**paco664** · 07-25-2012, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by MilkyLee

Paco664

Since you have this and a JNat, which edge to you prefer or feel is "better"?

Jnat........

the welsh slate will put a super sharp edge on a razor.... but the Jnat used after a coti seems to me like a super sharp coti edge... smooth and not harsh.....

the welsh slate edge is extremely sharp but to my face *(especially my neck) it is harsher...... YMMV

**MilkyLee** · 07-25-2012, 07:36 AM

Thanks for explaining that. I've been wanting to try a JNat out, so I might have to go ahead and buy one. What kind of JNat do you have?

**paco664** · 07-25-2012, 12:11 PM

i honestly don't know the name of it....

here it is...

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...say?highlight=

**Wid** · 07-25-2012, 01:50 PM

Jnat after coti makes for a great edge. I sold my Jnat and missed it so much I have another on order from JNS.

**Doc226** · 07-25-2012, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Wid

Jnat after coti makes for a great edge.

Agree 100%. Coti edges are smoooooth, JNAT edges are just as smoooooooooth but a bit more ooomph

**BakerAndBadger** · 07-25-2012, 09:51 PM

Well Ive decided I'm gonna get me the tri hone set and give em a go. Three lovely little stones for next to nothing. What more could a man want?

**studioguy** · 07-25-2012, 10:08 PM

I've got the three hone set and love it, the purple one and the "Welsh Thuringian" both are great finishers and the DT will work as a mid grade hone (4k-8k) with slurry and dilutions. The WT really gives a fine edge.

Originally Posted by BakerAndBadger

Well Ive decided I'm gonna get me the tri hone set and give em a go. Three lovely little stones for next to nothing. What more could a man want?